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I know the Orioles are playing poor baseball but they are only three back in the loss column for first place in the AL East and for the final wildcard spot. Jones gets healthy and Wieters gives a spark perhaps they make a run. Tillman gets better and Pearce hits to the opposite field. Still time left to fix a sinking ship. One trade also might be what this team needs.They play the Yankees next week and if they sweep them everyone would feel better.

You are 100% right. The thing is, if we have a down year it will just add to the frustration. It's not like there are a couple of 98 win teams and we just don't match up.

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I think the system is loaded with pitching, but there are some quality prospects in the system that we might be seeing at the end of this season and in ST for next year.

I am worried about position players. I am not counting on the arms for a true #1 starter but I feel good about our pitching depth. We should have some power arms in the pen.

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I am worried about position players. I am not counting on the arms for a true #1 starter but I feel good about our pitching depth. We should have some power arms in the pen.

Alverez is going to surprise some.

I like Yaz, and I know some of the scouts, feel he is only a 4th OF.

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Yeah, I support this.

I do as well but it will not be easy. It is becoming harder to find quality bats and the costs will keep going up.

Looking at the position players through 2017

Manny 3B

JJ SS

Schoop 2B

Joseph C

Jones CF

That leaves both corner OF spots, DH and 1B needing to be filled. Now I don't expect us to not use in house options in some spots, maybe a platoon but I think we need a significant upgrade in at least 2 spots. That is assuming that Jospeh plays well enough to be a regular.

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We need to trade some young SP for a decent OF. That is all.

I'd like to see Bundy and Harvey pitch a full season before we start trading young pitchers. Without those two, we don't have much in the way of young pitchers who project as big league starters.

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Alverez is going to surprise some.

I like Yaz, and I know some of the scouts, feel he is only a 4th OF.

He has a great arm but can he hit?

Nothing wrong with being a solid all around player as a 4th OF but we need more of an impact type player. Not having Schoop and Hardy not being himself has really hurt us. We don't have that ace pitcher that can dominate even with little run support. We have been a team whose strength has been the overall depth of our lineup and right now that is lacking big time.

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I do as well but it will not be easy. It is becoming harder to find quality bats and the costs will keep going up.

Looking at the position players through 2017

Manny 3B

JJ SS

Schoop 2B

Joseph C

Jones CF

That leaves both corner OF spots, DH and 1B needing to be filled. Now I don't expect us to not use in house options in some spots, maybe a platoon but I think we need a significant upgrade in at least 2 spots. That is assuming that Jospeh plays well enough to be a regular.

Alvarvez, Yaz, Burbon, Parmelle, Urrutia.

You might want to look at OBrien for the backup catching spot next season.

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He has a great arm but can he hit?

Nothing wrong with being a solid all around player as a 4th OF but we need more of an impact type player. Not having Schoop and Hardy not being himself has really hurt us. We don't have that ace pitcher that can dominate even with little run support. We have been a team whose strength has been the overall depth of our lineup and right now that is lacking big time.

Thats the question mark. Can he hit?

I think we will have an ACE next season, if Bundy keep progressing.

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Alvarvez, Yaz, Burbon, Parmelle, Urrutia.

You might want to look at OBrien for the backup catching spot next season.

None of those hitters impress me. I hope I am wrong. Maybe Alvarez can become a solid player but I don't see a Manny type in that bunch.

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Thats the question mark. Can he hit?

I think we will have an ACE next season, if Bundy keep progressing.

At this point I am not counting on Bundy for anything. I would take a solid bullpen piece at this point. Gausman can be a difference maker for us.

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None of those hitters impress me. I hope I am wrong. Maybe Alvarez can become a solid player but I don't see a Manny type in that bunch.

There is a huge gap between being a solid player and the next Manny. The only position player we have with that potential is Schoop. Hope he's back soon.

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I'd like to see Bundy and Harvey pitch a full season before we start trading young pitchers. Without those two, we don't have much in the way of young pitchers who project as big league starters.
We have Chen, Tillman, Wright Gausman, and Wilson, to offer. We ought to get somebody decent for one of them.
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There is a huge gap between being a solid player and the next Manny. The only position player we have with that potential is Schoop. Hope he's back soon.

Manny didnt really impact with the bat, while playing in A or AA.

Most didn't think Schoop was an impact player, until he got the job last year and showed what he could do.

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