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Ubaldo for Hanley?

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Crazysilver03 Hangout Grand Counsel

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Meh. Between Wright, Wilson, Miranda, and Gunkel I think we could find a warm body capable of putting up a 4.26 ERA with our defense.

If Ubaldo's contract is less bad than Hanley's, what could Boston include to make it work for us? Maybe Boston would feel enough pressure to move Hanley that they would include some cash. Maybe a prospect. Maybe it just isn't possible. I am not really advocating this, just trying to think what it would take. It would probably be painful to move him. It will probably be painful to keep him.

I don't disagree with being able to find a warm body to insert, but lets not burn through our depth either. We see how it is hurting us now.

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Il BuonO Hangout Grand Counsel

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The only way even a poor shortstop is that bad in left field is if he was completely unwilling to put any effort into the endeavor.

I would prefer not to have someone with that type of work ethic on the team.

I also don't think the O's have enough starting pitching depth to let Ubaldo go, even if he is more of a 4 then a 2.

Did you see his DRS numbers at 3B with the Marlins and then SS with the Dodgers? He's that bad.

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Il BuonO Hangout Grand Counsel

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Id rather have Ubaldo. Capable of being good(see Angels game in Anaheim...I was there)...and a good person who is well liked in the clubhouse. Ubaldo will pitch well again for us..whether or not he can stay consistent is a different matter.

Roy, that was one start out of five this month and he's been just shy of awful in the others. Oh, except for the five innings before becoming awful all in one inning of his last start.

Yes, nice guy. I wish he was a jerk and pitched lights out. I do this deal in a heartbeat.

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Ubaldo's contract isn't that bad. Plus he only has 2 more years left. In reality what's he really even overpaid by. 5 million a year? I like the bad contract for bad contract trade though. I think we should try for guys like Ethier, Gyorko, De La Rosa(COL), etc.

I think it's really bad. Getting paid ~$12m pretty much locks up a starting rotation spot in 2016.

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Roy, that was one start out of five this month and he's been just shy of awful in the others. Oh, except for the five innings before becoming awful all in one inning of his last start.

Yes, nice guy. I wish he was a jerk and pitched lights out. I do this deal in a heartbeat.

What about the first part of the season? Or does that not count?
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What about the first part of the season? Or does that not count?

What exactly do you think his value is for one and a half months of better than average pitching, Poobs? He had 2 of 4 good starts in April, 3 of 5 in May, three starts of 5 IP in June (Is that good?), and since July he's had 3 of 10 of value. He's below average (94 ERA+) on the entire season. He's just not very good. They don't parse it out in the end.

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What exactly do you think his value is for one and a half months of better than average pitching, Poobs? He had 2 of 4 good starts in April, 3 of 5 in May, three starts of 5 IP in June (Is that good?), and since July he's had 3 of 10 of value. He's below average (94 ERA+) on the entire season. He's just not very good. They don't parse it out in the end.
He's a better bet than Henley. Ubaldo was one of DD's projects. He signed the guy. I don't know DD very well, but I have serious doubts that DD is going to give up on a guy that he gave an unprecedented 4 year, 50M contract. Face it, he's not going anywhere. And I do still believe that he will improve. He has already improved his BB per 9 inning rate. I know that's not much, but it's a beginning. I realize that, when DD signed Ubaldo, he didn't realize that he was getting a reclamation project. But that's what DD got and I think that DD will stick with him.
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