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Tx Oriole Hangout Grand Counsel

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What does this mean? He is the best defensive CF in the league, but at the plate he has had too many rally-killing ABs (low and outside strikeouts, hits in to DPs, etc.).

You are the kind of fan AJones is talking about. And he is right on nail.

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"I'm just going to start going to Peter. Screw the middle men."

One cryptic tweet. As far as I can remember, that is the only negative comment AJ has made about the organization in 8 years as an Oriole. And people wonder why Chen wants an interpreter in front of press.

I believe the players are trying. As others have said, perhaps too much, playing through injuries (Miguel and JJ) and such.

The one guy who I believe was selfish and really hurt the team was Bud Norris. I believe he was still recovering from the virus, maybe pitching hurt as well, but felt the pressure to pitch because it is a contract year.

I'd really like to see a timeline of events with everything that happened with the toronto fiasco. Like the Jones tweets. When did Cruz, Miller, Markakis leave. Contracts tendered. That would make for a good thread. I wonder if it would stand out when DD was gone and when DD came back.

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I'd rather them be realistic. Nothing short of an absolutely epic collapse on the part of two or more WC teams, followed by a long winning streak by the O's, is going to get this team to the postseason. They'll be lucky to end the season at .500. Saying that they're going to make a run is a bold-faced lie. IF it happened, it would be one of those things that happens about once every 75 years. Why does Adam think his particular team is any more deserving of that than the hundreds of other clubs (teams x years) that have come before, and failed to make the playoffs after a strong showing early season then fizzling out?

The odds aren't merely stacked against the Orioles. We're to the point now that every loss takes us into an entirely new realm of unlikelihood of reaching the playoffs. So much would have to happen in terms of us winning and our competitors losing, that it's basically certain that it won't happen. And they continue to lose.

The only run they're going on is a mad dash out of the clubhouse after the game to avoid getting interviewed about this travesty of a team, and their attempt to deceive fans into thinking they still have a chance is just money grabbing, plain and simple.

Neg rep me if you must, but the truth hurts. The truth is incisive. The truth is embarrassing.

The front office isn't willing to face the truth. At least the players down on the field should. I'm not saying give up; I'm just saying face reality. It doesn't take much to say, "Sorry, guys, we gave it our best, but we just didn't have it in us this year. Maybe next year. But we're still gonna try and go out with a bang." That kind of honesty earns my respect. Lying through your teeth about "going on a run", does not.

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I not only won't "neg rep" you, I will say most of what you say is on the nose. I don't think Jones is thinking about "marketing" though. I think other people are. I think Adam is angry and has a lot of pride and is having a hard time getting his arms around the fact that this team just doesn't have it, and never did have it. I also think the idea that players would engage in truth and brutal honesty is a pipe dream. Most athletes with few exceptions are reluctant to rub against the grain or criticize team decisions, personnel, teammates. Its great to want honesty,but this is a dishonest game. Theres tons of dishonesty every where with scouting, coaching, finances, team personalities and marketing. Its the same in football and basketball too. They are trying to sell you a product every day. If you stop buying, then they have to think of another way to sell. Its a business and it always has been. And a lot of business deals with imagery and illusion. Anyway, I liked your post.

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6-1 in their last 7. Next 11 games are against Boston (4), Tampa (4), and Washington (3). Three struggling teams. Gotta win 9 of those (tall order, but doable in the eyes of an optimistic O's fan) before we close out with 7 straight against the Jays and Yankees. Man. I refuse to think we're out of it.

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Every game is a must win. Every day is a new assessment of their chances. Must defeat the Rays today.

Buck is not using the position call-ups, and he's pulling the starters quickly. I like to see him focused on winning games rather than on testing guys with an eye toward 2016.

One game at a time. One inning at a time. It's not impossible, just almost impossible.

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As long as Adam can keep getting check-swing hits with runners on base in the late innings, the O's have a chance.

Currently a .6% chance per BP playoff odds. Sounds about right. Not only do we have to win win win at a huge and unlikely clip, but other teams in wild card contention have to not go on an ill-timed hot streak as well.

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