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I'm happy that AJ has concerns for the team, and his future (what happens this coming off-season may impact his future pay).

I apologize if I'm repeating anything that someone has said, but from the 4 or 5 pages I've read on this post, it seems everyone is pitting AJ vs PA and the FO. I say it's possible he is representing all of those in the clubhouse who have a vested stake in their own future. Sort of like a shop-steward/union rep.

Will it help? I don't know.. but I'm rooting for AJ

Great post. You should chip in a little more often.

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As a matter of fact he does. It happens all the time in the industry. One of my former students is Travolta's assc. producer, and one of her responsibilities is to negotiate re writes and do them. They're called punch ups. They also have input into casting depending on their box office clout. John Wayne always had his buddies, like Bruce Cabot, in his films.

Interesting. I think the time for Jones' rewrites (or wholesale rejection of the script) was when he and his agent negotiated his contract. Now he's in the phase where he can talk about how to interpret and act out the script, but we're past the point of major changes.

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I'm happy that AJ has concerns for the team, and his future (what happens this coming off-season may impact his future pay).

I apologize if I'm repeating anything that someone has said, but from the 4 or 5 pages I've read on this post, it seems everyone is pitting AJ vs PA and the FO. I say it's possible he is representing all of those in the clubhouse who have a vested stake in their own future. Sort of like a shop-steward/union rep.

Will it help? I don't know.. but I'm rooting for AJ

So am I.

Still baffled by the reaction of many on the OH.

I am constantly baffled by it actually.

In a town where unions have had such a strong hold, the Orioles fans on this forum are strangely pro-ownership.

I wonder if there were many pro-Steinbrenner Yankees fans when he was messing up his team?

MSK

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Interesting. I think the time for Jones' rewrites (or wholesale rejection of the script) was when he and his agent negotiated his contract. Now he's in the phase where he can talk about how to interpret and act out the script, but we're past the point of major changes.

Rewrites can and often do last up until the last day of principal photography. Then there's editing...

This metaphor is beginning to resemble the shape of Silly Putty left out in the sun. :D

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Interesting. I think the time for Jones' rewrites (or wholesale rejection of the script) was when he and his agent negotiated his contract. Now he's in the phase where he can talk about how to interpret and act out the script, but we're past the point of major changes.
Not making a comparison to Jones, just correcting a mistaken notion about the film industry. I think Jones is acting as a spokesperson for the team and wants to express their mood. I doubt he expects to have a say in specific moves the FO makes.
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Not making a comparison to Jones, just correcting a mistaken notion about the film industry. I think Jones is acting as a spokesperson for the team and wants to express their mood. I doubt he expects to have a say in specific moves the FO makes.

He just wants to win, and preferably win on a team of good guys he likes to be around.

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Great post. You should chip in a little more often.
Thanks!

There are 2 reasons why I don't do much posting:

Main reason: So many people post here, its hard to keep up.

Secondary reason: Bully mentality against those who have a mind of their own and "drift" off the normal path.

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So am I.

Still baffled by the reaction of many on the OH.

I am constantly baffled by it actually.

In a town where unions have had such a strong hold, the Orioles fans on this forum are strangely pro-ownership.

I wonder if there were many pro-Steinbrenner Yankees fans when he was messing up his team?

MSK

You keep saying this, but I'm not really sure this is actually a thing. There are plenty of anti-PA screeds, but rarely have I ever seen anyone at all sing his praises...

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I'm happy that AJ has concerns for the team, and his future (what happens this coming off-season may impact his future pay).

I apologize if I'm repeating anything that someone has said, but from the 4 or 5 pages I've read on this post, it seems everyone is pitting AJ vs PA and the FO. I say it's possible he is representing all of those in the clubhouse who have a vested stake in their own future. Sort of like a shop-steward/union rep.

Will it help? I don't know.. but I'm rooting for AJ

AJ is also representing a lot of fans who want something substantial done this winter, who want a winning team.
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So am I.

Still baffled by the reaction of many on the OH.

I am constantly baffled by it actually.

In a town where unions have had such a strong hold, the Orioles fans on this forum are strangely pro-ownership.

I wonder if there were many pro-Steinbrenner Yankees fans when he was messing up his team?

MSK

I don't think that the majority of fans on OH are pro-ownership. Many of them are pro-Dan Duquette, and are quite outspoken in DD's defense; they don't want DD's decisions questioned, especially by a mere player. But that is certainly not all or even the majority of the OH members.

In AJ's defense, and just my opinion: AJ isn't trying to take over DD's or PA's positions. He just wants to be heard rather than completely dismissed and ignored, in their decisions about the direction of the ball club. In some ways, he represents the frustration of fans as well as the frustration of some of the other players.

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I'd like the see the group of fans who want a losing team, who are pining away for bargain bin talents to replace stars.
There are some who would say that DD's habit of what they call "dumpster-diving" is exactly what DD has been doing. I'm not saying here that I agree with them. I do believe that DD sincerely believes that he is putting together a winning team by his decisions. Myself, I don't question DD's motives, but I do question some of his decisions.
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