Rosenthal Productions Presents: Trouble In Birdland

[mcgraw238]

No doubt this is 80% Rosenthal agenda and 20 % tempest in a tea pot, but Duq XM had some interesting observations today. He said there is still some left over dead wood on the organization, and back biting from factions. He said this is something PA actually encourages. He tells both sides that they are the guy, and thus there are no clear lines of authority.

Bingo! I'm sure things are better than they were in the good ole days, but this seems plausible to me.

[Tony-OH]

That's iffy imo. Buck isn't uncultured in modern analytics and such, but he's still an old school guy. By the book. Peterson's way might just be a bridge too far for Buck.

Still... it's Rick freaking Peterson. No offense to the man, I love having him. Still, he is not nearly enough to cause "If it doesn't change, it will be a disaster."

What has he done for the organization to make you "Love him?" I mean, our top two pitching prospects (and severla others) went down with injuries and the theory behind Peterson's stuff is it reduces injuries.

[Redskins Rick]

What has he done for the organization to make you "Love him?" I mean, our top two pitching prospects (and severla others) went down with injuries and the theory behind Peterson's stuff is it reduces injuries.

My brain says you are spot-on.

But, so far, we have bit the bullet for existing pitchers to not need TJ.

Personally, I am torn about how I feel.

[Going Underground]

Remind me how much was reported about turmoil within the Red Sox before they jumped on Dave Dombrowski as quickly as possible. Speaking of Dombrowski, was there a lot of buildup in the media prior to his resignation from Detroit? Obviously there was discontentment within those two organizations, huge disappointments each. I can't imagine the Lerners are happy with 2015 either, and yet it's Baltimore gets the Rosenthal melodrama treatment. Maybe there is some truth to this, maybe not. However, the timing of this speaks of a tired "journalist" who has run out of ideas to write about and returns yet again to an agenda that despite years away from Baltimore has never resolved. Rosenthal's article is like leftovers brought out of the freezer from six month ago, and reheated, but the taste it leaves behind is still rancid. Get over it, Ken. You're a little man in both stature and temperment.

He did write about that Gonzalez has lost the Braves clubhouse. Also how Boston treated Cherington in the end. I guess he might be a little upset because Angelos tried

to chop him down. He is not that tall to began with. I have heard many stories about what when on with the Sun and Angelos.

[Babypowder]

Remind me how much was reported about turmoil within the Red Sox before they jumped on Dave Dombrowski as quickly as possible. Speaking of Dombrowski, was there a lot of buildup in the media prior to his resignation from Detroit? Obviously there was discontentment within those two organizations, huge disappointments each. I can't imagine the Lerners are happy with 2015 either, and yet it's Baltimore gets the Rosenthal melodrama treatment. Maybe there is some truth to this, maybe not. However, the timing of this speaks of a tired "journalist" who has run out of ideas to write about and returns yet again to an agenda that despite years away from Baltimore has never resolved. Rosenthal's article is like leftovers brought out of the freezer from six month ago, and reheated, but the taste it leaves behind is still rancid. Get over it, Ken. You're a little man in both stature and temperment.

We totally agree in principle, but I don't understand why his height has to be brought up as often as it is around here. What does that have to do with anything?

[weams]

We totally agree in principle, but I don't understand why his height has to be brought up as often as it is around here. What does that have to do with anything?

Probably because they joke about it constantly on air on his MLB programs. Like they do his signature bow ties. He has made a living on those two unique characteristics. Long after he gave up any semblance of serious journalism. He became a caricature and a personality. Kinda like when a bald guy goes around polishing his head with wax. It gets noticed and talked about.

[El Gordo]

We totally agree in principle, but I don't understand why his height has to be brought up as often as it is around here. What does that have to do with anything?

Short people shouldn't wear bow ties.

[video=youtube;sX6I2NrguAs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6I2NrguAs

[Ohfan67]

Disappointing season following an offseason with DD-Toronto drama. Owner with a checkered "management" history. Organization with some odd organizational structure (VP instead of GM, pitching coordinator with unclear level of influence and not clear if on same page with minor league coaches, etc.). Most if not all organizations have some issues and they are discussed/focused on when things are not going great. I'm hoping this stuff is actually minor and the O's can have a good offseason, catch a few breaks with minor league injuries and development, and have a very good 2016. But no sense to rip Rosenthal in my opinion. These articles happen when things are not going as planned/hoped.

[El Gordo]

It's tiresome.

Yeah lets highjack another thread and turn it into a "oh poor baby, MSK."

[weams]

Narcissists don't carry crosses, they carry mirrors.

By the way. I like Rick Peterson. He always talks with me, he knows much more about pitching than I do, his approach to health seems much more modern than I am used to from other pitching experts I hear from. I like his sting theory down in the zone, two strikes out of the first three pitches approach. It seems to work for our less talented draftees and acquisitions who seem to thrive with it. He did a nice job with Givens.

[BohKnowsBmore]

Devils advocate here, do you really think any parties involved would actually admit to this and say "yes, the rumors are true" to the media, on the record?

Right, but the opposite is not necessarily true either (that it makes them liars). Reminds me of an old saying: "a man may stand to get a great deal of peace by telling his wife he loves her, but he may still love her all the same."

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[weams]

Right, but the opposite is not necessarily true either (that it makes them liars). Reminds me of an old saying: "a man may stand to get a great deal of peace by telling his wife he loves her, but he may still love her all the same."

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I think if it were true that we would get denials as well. I question every bit of Ken Rosenthal's motivations.

[mdbdotcom]

By the way. I like Rick Peterson. He always talks with me, he knows much more about pitching than I do, his approach to health seems much more modern than I am used to from other pitching experts I hear from. I like his sting theory down in the zone, two strikes out of the first three pitches approach. It seems to work for our less talented draftees and acquisitions who seem to thrive with it. He did a nice job with Givens.

That's good to know. Thanks.

[scOtt]

What has he done for the organization to make you "Love him?" I mean, our top two pitching prospects (and severla others) went down with injuries and the theory behind Peterson's stuff is it reduces injuries.

Leftover feelings I guess. I really liked what i read at first but Bundy and Harvey do not speak well for Peterson.

[SeaBird]

Probably because they joke about it constantly on air on his MLB programs. Like they do his signature bow ties. He has made a living on those two unique characteristics. Long after he gave up any semblance of serious journalism. He became a caricature and a personality. Kinda like when a bald guy goes around polishing his head with wax. It gets noticed and talked about.

Incorrect. Rosenthal doesn't "make a living" off the bow ties. He actually hated the ties but began wearing them on specific days for various charities. The ties he wears are auctioned off and the they may also be bought on line. As a matter of fact, he and the Orioles bird wore a bow tie, called the LUNGevity Tie, in honor of Monica Barlow, the Orioles PR director who died of lung cancer to raise funds for the various lung cancer charities. He doesn't make a dime off the ties.

He began wearing the ties after entering into an agreement with Dhani Jones former Bengals player and founder of "The Bow Tie Cause."

http://bowtiecause.com/the-cause/