NY Post: Could Orioles tension set up Cal Ripken for manager?

[eddie83]

Those are very funny posts!

If you think it is funny that DD and Buck are butting heads than good for you. Both haven't done a real good job of putting an end to the story.

[weams]

At what point are you going to recognize there are issues in the organization?

Why do I have to do that? All organizations have issues. Especially when they are in last place.

BTW after rereading it, other than the Maroon content and the Showalter content it is the same as the last three articles.

[eddie83]

Why do I have to do that? All organizations have issues. Especially when they are in last place.

BTW after rereading it, other than the Maroon content and the Showalter content it is the same as the last three articles.

So all last place teams have this specific issue? All losing teams have a GM that wanted to leave and a headstrong manager with designs on moving into the Front Office?

[weams]

So all last place teams have this specific issue? All losing teams have a GM that wanted to leave and a headstrong manager with designs on moving into the Front Office?

I know several GMs were interested in the Toronto team President job. Including a President already. Kenny Williams. I have no idea what Buck wants to do, but whatever it is, I say let him do it.

[weams]

So all last place teams have this specific issue? All losing teams have a GM that wanted to leave and a headstrong manager with designs on moving into the Front Office?

Most last place teams have fired their GM's and their managers.

[eddie83]

I know several GMs were interested in the Toronto team President job. Including a President already. Kenny Williams. I have no idea what Buck wants to do, but whatever it is, I say let him do it.

I am talking about after Buck is done managing he has indicated he wants to move upstairs. How many managers like Buck are left? He has power, most nowadays are puppets of their GM. I don't expect any team to have a love fest when things are going bad but all of this is more than that.

Is this story bringing up new issues? No, it isn't, but at the end of the day anytime a negative story about the Orioles is written you immediately go after the author.

[weams]

I am talking about after Buck is done managing he has indicated he wants to move upstairs. How many managers like Buck are left? He has power, most nowadays are puppets of their GM. I don't expect any team to have a love fest when things are going bad but all of this is more than that.

Is this story bringing up new issues? No, it isn't, but at the end of the day anytime a negative story about the Orioles is written you immediately go after the author.

I would think Buck might be done working for teams after his contract is up.

[24fps]

If you think it is funny that DD and Buck are butting heads than good for you. Both haven't done a real good job of putting an end to the story.

There are stories and then there are fishing expeditions. Smart people who are accustomed to dealing with the press know the difference.

[eddie83]

There are stories and then there are fishing expeditions. Smart people who are accustomed to dealing with the press know the difference.

The Ripken part isn't the story is the reaction of Buck and Dan. If it is all a buck of BS then just say so.

[24fps]

The Ripken part isn't the story is the reaction of Buck and Dan. If it is all a buck of BS then just say so.

When a public figure responds to a rumor, far more often than not it only breathes life into it and adds substance. So far I don't see a story, only a collection of rumors. That's not to say that it couldn't become a story, but that burden is on the journalist. Until then, not responding is the appropriate choice.

[wildcard]

I believe neither Buck nor Dan are happy with the way this season has gone. If you want to call that tension, have at it. Other than that I don't believe there is much more to it.

Both are signed for three more years. Both will work together to make next year more successful IMO.

[eddie83]

I believe neither Buck nor Dan are happy with the way this season has gone. If you want to call that tension, have at it. Other than that I don't believe there is much more to it.

Both are signed for three more years. Both will work together to make next year more successful IMO.

We better hope so. Things are ugly. Everytime you turn around a player has something to say, mainly complaining like Jones and Britton. None of the coaches are signed and Roch reported that teams are asking about Wallace. Plus all this talk about Buck and Dan. On the field right now we are an embarrassment.

[weams]

A San Diego Pitcher chimes in.

"This is America’s game. This is America’s pastime, and over the last 10-15 years we’ve seen a very big world influence in this game, which we as a union and as players appreciate. We’re opening this game to everyone that can play. However, if you’re going to come into our country and make our American dollars, you need to respect a game that has been here for over a hundred years, and I think sometimes that can be misconstrued. There are some players that have antics, that have done things over the years that we don’t necessarily agree with."

"I understand you want to say it’s a cultural thing or an upbringing thing. But by the time you get to the big leagues, you better have a pretty good understanding of what this league is and how long it’s been around."

[wildcard]

We better hope so. Things are ugly. Everytime you turn around a player has something to say, mainly complaining like Jones and Britton. None of the coaches are signed and Roch reported that teams are asking about Wallace. Plus all this talk about Buck and Dan. On the field right now we are an embarrassment.

Its called losing. Lose is hardly ever fun. But it is something players can learn from so they try to never experience it again.

After winning the division last year I think some O's players lost focus on what they have to do to win. This year is a reminder.

[Tx Oriole]

http://nypost.com/2015/09/30/could-orioles-tension-set-up-cal-ripken-for-manager/

Here are the opening lines:

"The Orioles are fortunate to have an organization as dysfunctional as the Nationals in their backyard ? or else the attention would be greater on Baltimore?s season of underachievement and disharmony.

"It has not exactly been ignored. There have been reports about a brewing unease between GM Dan Duquette and manager Buck Showalter.

"In fact, one persistent rumor within the game is Showalter ? craving more input into player personnel decisions ? is going to move upstairs to run baseball operations and Orioles icon Cal Ripken is going to become the manager.

"When reached by phone, Showalter said, ?We have a lot of work to do this offseason. I don?t see that happening. I was hired to do a job [manage], and I plan to finish that.?"

The article goes on to say PA might be hesitant as it would be hard to fire Cal if he ended up not being good. Also Cal's agent says he hasn't had any talks with any teams since talking to the Nationals.

Don't want Cal as the manager. I don't think Cal would want to work for PA. And

there is no guarantee that he'd be successful? Nor do I believe there is that much

tension between DD and Buck. I think they have their differences for sure. But I

don't think it's too a boiling point. IMO