Machado Joins Reggie Jackson, Paul Blair, Don Baylor, Brady Anderson

[Can_of_corn]

I was trying to be lazy but looked it up. Buys out 3 FA years (and more?) Or he can opt out then? 2020 for him. BUTTLOAD of $$$ if he stays.

That would work for me.

I knew what you were doing.

[OFFNY]

1) Who would quote a stat from 1906, when the Orioles didn't exist in their current form until 1954? No Oriole fan cares about St. Louis Browns records.

You can speak for yourself, and you can also perhaps speak for a lot of Oriole fans besides yourself, but you cannot speak for everybody and all Oriole fans.

Last year when the Orioles clinched the division, I found out that there were 2 posters here on the OH that have been a fan of the franchise since they were the Browns, and that is why they are currently Orioles fans.

Also, Nash Lumber (another OH poster) told me in the game thread last week that he has a St. Louis Browns hat that he occasionally breaks out and wears.

It's like seeing Hartford Whalers sweaters at Canes games in Raleigh. Nice touch.

I have a reproduction St. Louis Browns cap I wear some.

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/150205-vs-NATIONALS-9-24/page11?highlight=Browns

[DrungoHazewood]

You can speak for yourself, and you can also perhaps speak for a lot of Oriole fans besides yourself, but you cannot speak for everybody and all Oriole fans.

Last year when the Orioles clinched the division, I found out that there were 2 posters here on the OH that have been a fan of the franchise since they were the Browns, and that is why they are currently Orioles fans.

Also, Nash Lumber (another OH poster) told me in the game thread last week that he has a St. Louis Browns hat that he occasionally breaks out and wears.

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/150205-vs-NATIONALS-9-24/page11?highlight=Browns

Let me rephrase... the Orioles and the vast majority of the fanbase seem to have absolutely no interest in saying that George Sisler has the franchise record for batting average in a season. The Orioles themselves don't count Browns records.

[OFFNY]

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(vs. YANKEES, 10/01) O[Game One]

34 HOME RUNS

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[El Gordo]

Let me rephrase... the Orioles and the vast majority of the fanbase seem to have absolutely no interest in saying that George Sisler has the franchise record for batting average in a season. The Orioles themselves don't count Browns records.

If we are counting the Browns why aren't we counting the Highlanders? :rolleyestf:

[OFFNY]

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(vs. YANKEES, 10/01) O[Game Two]

35 HOME RUNS

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[Moose Milligan]

I remember a thread awhile back, wondering if anyone on the roster was a HoFer. At the time, IIRC, we said that Jones might have a chance, so could Markakis if he somehow wound up with 3000 hits but there wasn't anyone that was a dead lock.

If Manny stays healthy and keeps playing this way, it'll be him.

[weams]

I remember a thread awhile back, wondering if anyone on the roster was a HoFer. At the time, IIRC, we said that Jones might have a chance, so could Markakis if he somehow wound up with 3000 hits but there wasn't anyone that was a dead lock.

If Manny stays healthy and keeps playing this way, it'll be him.

Sign him for 10 years, Build the statue.

[Can_of_corn]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Players with 35 HR, 20 SB in age 22-or-younger season:

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[DrungoHazewood]

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That's nice, and Manny is awesome. But in almost all of these factoids there's a catch. In A-Rod's season he went 40-40, not 35-20.

Also, from 1920-60 nobody really stole any bases. From 1871-1919 nobody really hit any homers, and in fact the all-time single season HR record was 27. So there were almost no power-speed combos prior to the 1960s. 12 players went 20-20 from 1871-1960, compared to 170 since.

Mike Trout was certainly as impressive or more impressive in his age 20 and 21 seasons, but just missed the selected cutoffs. Andruw Jones had very similar seasons at 21, 22, and 23, but just missed the selected cutoffs, too. And, of course, using baseball age is a little misleading for Manny (and Nelson Cruz) since they were born in early July. If Manny was born six days earlier this would be his age 23 season, and you'd add Andruw Jones and Jose Canseco to the comps. Canseco also went 40-40 in his age 23 season.

[DrungoHazewood]

I remember a thread awhile back, wondering if anyone on the roster was a HoFer. At the time, IIRC, we said that Jones might have a chance, so could Markakis if he somehow wound up with 3000 hits but there wasn't anyone that was a dead lock.

If Manny stays healthy and keeps playing this way, it'll be him.

Being a decent major league position player in your age 19 season means you probably have a >50% shot at the Hall.

[OFFNY]

I remember a thread awhile back, wondering if anyone on the roster was a HoFer. At the time, IIRC, we said that Jones might have a chance, so could Markakis if he somehow wound up with 3000 hits but there wasn't anyone that was a dead lock.

If Manny stays healthy and keeps playing this way, it'll be him.

Being a decent major league position player in your age 19 season means you probably have a >50% shot at the Hall.

The first person that comes to mind when you mention this is Robin Yount, who started for the Brewers when he was 18 in 1974.

He evolved into an excellent player over the next few years, and stuck around for a very long time (1993.)

[Can_of_corn]

That's nice, and Manny is awesome. But in almost all of these factoids there's a catch. In A-Rod's season he went 40-40, not 35-20.

Also, from 1920-60 nobody really stole any bases. From 1871-1919 nobody really hit any homers, and in fact the all-time single season HR record was 27. So there were almost no power-speed combos prior to the 1960s. 12 players went 20-20 from 1871-1960, compared to 170 since.

Mike Trout was certainly as impressive or more impressive in his age 20 and 21 seasons, but just missed the selected cutoffs. Andruw Jones had very similar seasons at 21, 22, and 23, but just missed the selected cutoffs, too. And, of course, using baseball age is a little misleading for Manny (and Nelson Cruz) since they were born in early July. If Manny was born six days earlier this would be his age 23 season, and you'd add Andruw Jones and Jose Canseco to the comps. Canseco also went 40-40 in his age 23 season.

Of course it's silly.

[weams]

Let me rephrase... the Orioles and the vast majority of the fanbase seem to have absolutely no interest in saying that George Sisler has the franchise record for batting average in a season. The Orioles themselves don't count Browns records.

Vast majority.

[OFFNY]

I looked pretty hard on YouTube, couldn't find any.

1976, right?

Found some George Harrison.

The first thing that comes to mind is Harrison's appearance on "Saturday Night Live" with Paul Simon that year. They played, Here Comes the Sun together.