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It's a comfort to know that Zimmerman is in Detroit and no rumors of him to

the O'S. But DD was probably in this to the end.

haha, you know DD will say he was. You didn't actually believe him when he said they would get a top of the line starting pitcher did you? DD will prolly sign someone like Leake and try to make us believe he is a number 1

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haha, you know DD will say he was. You didn't actually believe him when he said they would get a top of the line starting pitcher did you? DD will prolly sign someone like Leake and try to make us believe he is a number 1

He defined a top of the rotation starter as a number 1, 2, or 3. Leake would qualify, as would Gallardo. If you were hoping for Price, Zimmermann, Greinke, or Cueto, you were deluding yourself.

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He defined a top of the rotation starter as a number 1, 2, or 3. Leake would qualify, as would Gallardo. If you were hoping for Price, Zimmermann, Greinke, or Cueto, you were deluding yourself.

Very true. Gallardo is the most likely candidate for us. To talk about any of the others IS delusional. The thing with signing Gallardo is that we would lose the #15 overall pick. Hopefully we'll resign Davis. Gallardo might be in an "Ubaldo" situation, where since he has a pick loss attached to him his value will drop. MW took the QO. So in that situation our riches in draft picks to rebuild the system would be....

1st round comp pick for Chen

2nd round pick

2nd round pick for not signing Hughes last year

Competitive balance pick B, after the 2nd rd.

If Gallardo is going to cost around 14 a year, at what point does it make more sense just to sign a guy like Leake, who doesn't cost a pick?

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haha, you know DD will say he was. You didn't actually believe him when he said they would get a top of the line starting pitcher did you? DD will prolly sign someone like Leake and try to make us believe he is a number 1

I would be quite happy if we signed Leake.

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He defined a top of the rotation starter as a number 1, 2, or 3. Leake would qualify, as would Gallardo. If you were hoping for Price, Zimmermann, Greinke, or Cueto, you were deluding yourself.

He is such a used car salesman. A top of the rotation starter is not a 3 but thats the way he works. I am sick of his half-truths, can we give him to Blue Jays?

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He is such a used car salesman. A top of the rotation starter is not a 3 but thats the way he works. I am sick of his half-truths, can we give him to Blue Jays?

You poor oppressed fan. Personally, I'm glad we went to the playoffs in 2012 and 2014 and think DD had a lot to do with it.

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You poor oppressed fan. Personally, I'm glad we went to the playoffs in 2012 and 2014 and think DD had a lot to do with it.

For what it's worth, Horsepower is right - a #3 is not a TOR starter. And so when DD throws in"TOR" and defines it with "a #3," he's just cutting himself - and the entire Orioles organization - some verbal slack for the moment when we all wake up on opening day and realize that Yovani Gallardo was the best we did...

For a team already stacked with #3s and #4s, a TOR would be a refreshing presence. Tillman, Gausman, Jimenez, Gonzalez (assuming Chen is gone)... Which of these guys strikes you as a TOR? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller...?

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