Is it reasonable to expect the bullpen to repeat last year's performance?

[Just Regular]

In addition to Buck protecting the health of our guys, should he get any slivers of credit for the excellent performance as well? I imagine there's some art to separating that just like separating pitching and defense in run prevention in general.

The other thing I'm curious to watch with Chen gone tilting the rotation-bullpen quality mix even further, is if the Orioles become more devoted avoiders of the third time through the order penalty. Last year Tampa was one of the first to conspicuously start doing that, and I've read some praise of the Cubs amassing long reliever types as an indication Maddon's ready to jump harder on this too for the Hammels and Hendrickses of the world. The talent distribution on our roster kind of cries out for us to do it too.

[Frobby]

2015: 30-19, 3.21 ERA (3.48 FIP, 3.64 xFIP), 6.24 WPA, 43/58 saves (74.1%)

2014: 28-21, 3.10 ERA (3.55 FIP, 3.54 xFIP), 6.24 WPA, 53/72 saves (73.6%)

2013: 29-26, 3.52 ERA (3.74 FIP, 3.58 xFIP), 0.54 WPA, 57/84 saves (67.8%)

2012: 32-11, 3.00 ERA (3.68 FIP, 3.88 xFIP), 13.86 WPA, 55/73 saves (75.3%)

That is an awesome performance.

2016: 32-15, 3.40 ERA (3.90 FIP, 4.11 xFIP), 9.27 WPA, 54/68 saves (79.4%)

Another awesome performance. The 9.27 WPA was by far the best in MLB, as was save percentage and winning percentage, and ERA best in the AL. Over the last five years, the O's bullpen has the highest WPA and most wins and saves of any bullpen. We should never take that for granted, especially if you watched the various teams' bullpens imploding in the final weeks of the year.

[LookitsPuck]

Imagine how good this team would have been w/ a healthy O'Day.

[25 Nuggets]

2016: 32-15, 3.40 ERA (3.90 FIP, 4.11 xFIP), 9.27 WPA, 54/68 saves (79.4%)

Another awesome performance. The 9.27 WPA was by far the best in MLB, as was save percentage and winning percentage, and ERA best in the AL. Over the last five years, the O's bullpen has the highest WPA and most wins and saves of any bullpen. We should never take that for granted, especially if you watched the various teams' bullpens imploding in the final weeks of the year.

So....

Is it reasonable to expect the bullpen to repeat this year's performance?

[OFFNY]

Frobby said:

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2016: 32-15, 3.40 ERA (3.90 FIP, 4.11 xFIP), 9.27 WPA, 54/68 saves (79.4%)

 

Another awesome performance. The 9.27 WPA was by far the best in MLB, as was save percentage and winning percentage, and ERA best in the AL. Over the last five years, the O's bullpen has the highest WPA and most wins and saves of any bullpen. We should never take that for granted, especially if you watched the various teams' bullpens imploding in the final weeks of the year.

o

25 Nuggets said:

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So ......

Is it reasonable to expect the bullpen to repeat this year's performance?

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If Darren O'Day can manage stay healthy for the entire season, which would presumably takes some pressure (and some innings) off of Brad Brach ........ yes.

 

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[25 Nuggets]

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If Darren O'Day can manage stay healthy for the entire season, which would presumably takes some pressure (and some innings) off of Brad Brach ........ yes.

Well, here's what we have right now:

- Zach Britton can't be expected to repeat 2016 but unless the strike zone really effects him, he'll still be a top closer in the league.

- Brad Brach probably won't repeat 2016 but it's reasonable to expect a career average year, which is now 2.96 ERA, 1.242 WHIP.

- Mychal Givens can easily improve on his 2016 numbers since he had a horrendous start; his K/9 is 11.5

- Donnie Hart looks like a killer LOOGY. His K/9 is troubling though.

- Darren O'Day might be the fifth best reliever on the team next year, which is great news presuming health.

- Vance Worley is a "just get it done" kind of back-end pen/emergency starter with a sub-4 ERA at 3/4 of his stops.

That's six spots nailed down with one open for debate. Presumably the loser of the Gallardo/Miley sweepstakes goes to the pen. So again, barring trade or health issues, there's no room for the fringe guys. Yes the bullpen should be very good again.

[higgybaby]

Do we have Worley signed thru next season?

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[Frobby]

Do we have Worley signed thru next season?

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He is under team control through 2018.

[Can_of_corn]

Do we have Worley signed thru next season?

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I love that if you google "baseball reference Vanimal" Worley comes up.

He isn't a free agent until 2019.

[OFFNY]

On 10/3/2016 at 8:59 PM, 25 Nuggets said:

 

So ......

Is it reasonable to expect the bullpen to repeat this year's performance?

 

 

 

On 10/3/2016 at 10:44 PM, OFFNY said:

 

 

If Darren O'Day can manage stay healthy for the entire season, which would presumably takes some pressure (and some innings) off of Brad Brach ...... yes.

 

 

o

 

10 percent of the way into the season, the Orioles' bullpen has been excellent so far ...... even without Zach Britton for more than a week, now.

 

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[OFFNY]

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(MAY 25th)

 

Quietly, and amid all of the recent losing, the Oriole bullpen at-large has crept back toward respectability in the last week after the 13-inning fiasco against the Tigers on May 16th.

The one exception was  the 14-7 loss to the Twins, in which Tyler Wilson was awful. Even then, Stefan Crichton saved the rest of the bullpen by pitching 3.33 shutout innings before ceding a 2-run home run with 2 outs in the top of the 9th inning.

 

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[sportsfan8703]

5 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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(MAY 25th)

 

Quietly, and amid all of the recent losing, the Oriole bullpen at-large has crept back toward respectability in the last week after the 13-inning fiasco against the Tigers on May 16th.

The one exception was  the 14-7 loss to the Twins, in which Tyler Wilson was awful. Even then, Stefan Crichton saved the rest of the bullpen by pitching 3.33 shutout innings before ceding a 2-run home run with 2 outs in the top of the 9th inning.

 

o

Chricton, Castro and Asher have all saved the pen and kept us in some games.  If the pen was where it's at right now rest wise, I think you would have seen Buck go to Givens instead of Wilson in that opening game of the Twins series.  

[OFFNY]

On 5/25/2017 at 9:41 AM, OFFNY said:

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(MAY 25th)

 

Quietly, and amid all of the recent losing, the Oriole bullpen at-large has crept back toward respectability in the last week after the 13-inning fiasco against the Tigers on May 16th.

The one exception was  the 14-7 loss to the Twins, in which Tyler Wilson was awful. Even then, Stefan Crichton saved the rest of the bullpen by pitching 3.33 shutout innings before ceding a 2-run home run with 2 outs in the top of the 9th inning.

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One week later, and the bullpen has continued to step up and redeem itself from the horrid stretch that it gone through several weeks ago.

It's feeling like the perennially dominant bullpen that were have been using to seeing since the 2012 season ........ but the atrocious starting rotation continues to put an inordinate amount of pressure on it.

 

o

[Frobby]

28 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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One week later, and the bullpen has continued to step up and redeem itself from the horrid stretch that it gone through several weeks ago.

It's feeling like the perennially dominant bullpen that were have been using to seeing since the 2012 season ........ but the atrocious starting rotation continues to put an inordinate amount of pressure on it.

 

o

The starters averaged 5.17 IP per game in May, worst in the league. But our back-end guys did get a bit more rest because the team was losing so they weren't needed  to protect leads. 

Brach: 13 appearances for 14 innings in 23 games in April; 11 appearances for 10 innings in 28 games in May.

Givens: 11 appearances for 14 innings in 23 games in April; 13 appearances for 13.1 innings in 28 games in May.

O'Day: 11 appearances for 10.1 innings in 23 games in April; 11 appearances for 11 innings in 28 games in May.

In all three cases, these guys had more rest in May, and in the case of Brach and Givens, most of the extra rest was over the last 2 weeks or so.

I feel the back end guys are in pretty good shape now.   Hopefully they'll have some leads to protect.   

[bpilktree]

23 minutes ago, Frobby said:

The starters averaged 5.17 IP per game in May, worst in the league. But our back-end guys did get a bit more rest because the team was losing so they weren't needed  to protect leads. 

Brach: 13 appearances for 14 innings in 23 games in April; 11 appearances for 10 innings in 28 games in May.

Givens: 11 appearances for 14 innings in 23 games in April; 13 appearances for 13.1 innings in 28 games in May.

O'Day: 11 appearances for 10.1 innings in 23 games in April; 11 appearances for 11 innings in 28 games in May.

In all three cases, these guys had more rest in May, and in the case of Brach and Givens, most of the extra rest was over the last 2 weeks or so.

I feel the back end guys are in pretty good shape now.   Hopefully they'll have some leads to protect.   

Yeah they seem to be back to the early part of the year.  I liked Wright in an inning last night as well.  He seems to fit best there imo and a Tommy Hunter type come in and throw it as hard as you can for an inning or if need be can give you a few innings a game here and there.