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I don't think the reputation is fine. I think the O's are at a real disadvantage when it comes to signing free agent pitchers because of the physicals.

I don't blame the O's for holding pitchers to a high standard but I do think it has an impact.

That could end up being a good thing. We need to draft and develop our pitchers anyway

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Calling out the organization for their bad mistake over and over and then in the next breath saying everything is peachy seems like a contradiction.

That, of course is complete garbage. I'm a parent three sons. I can be very critical of an individual decision while still being proud of my kid.

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That, of course is complete garbage. I'm a parent three sons. I can be very critical of an individual decision while still being proud of my kid.

Ok, easy pal. I wasn't questioning your parenting. However, the Orioles development has been questioned and you've done your fair share of it. I think it is at the very least "spin" to try and say the organizational reputation is fine (whatever that means) while admitting they've repeatedly missed on development.

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I agree. Injured is better than this is it.

I think "injured" turns into "this is it." He's a guy entering his 30s with shoulder damage from a lifetime of pitching. 3 or 4 years of DL stints, rehab starts, 3-page threads on whether or not he's coming up or going down, and some cheap minor league fliers before retirement. A guy who sort of blends into the background and then disappears.

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I think "injured" turns into "this is it." He's a guy entering his 30s with shoulder damage from a lifetime of pitching. 3 or 4 years of DL stints, rehab starts, 3-page threads on whether or not he's coming up or going down, and some cheap minor league fliers before retirement. A guy who sort of blends into the background and then disappears.

Probably.

But I am also OK with better the DL than the rotation.

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I think "injured" turns into "this is it." He's a guy entering his 30s with shoulder damage from a lifetime of pitching. 3 or 4 years of DL stints, rehab starts, 3-page threads on whether or not he's coming up or going down, and some cheap minor league fliers before retirement. A guy who sort of blends into the background and then disappears.

Yeah I have no optimism that he will come back from this. Shoulder injuries are brutal. He'll almost certainly never get back to averaging 90 mph on his fastball. There's a chance he gets back into the 88-89 mph range and I think he's a good enough pitcher that he could still be successful there. But don't hold your breath.

Like CoC said, injured and no longer in the rotation is better than being stuck feeling like we have to keep running him out there, or having to find a spot in the pen or release him.

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At this point, a DL stint (hopefully for the rest of the year) can only be a good thing. Yes, they look like a Keystone Cops Operation by signing, but since we're past that.. we can only go up from here concerning him. Either we use someone else (inevitably better than how he's been pitching) or he rights himself and we get a modicum of what we were hoping for.

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At this point, a DL stint (hopefully for the rest of the year) can only be a good thing. Yes, they look like a Keystone Cops Operation by signing, but since we're past that.. we can only go up from here concerning him. Either we use someone else (inevitably better than how he's been pitching) or he rights himself and we get a modicum of what we were hoping for.

I can't wait for the talking heads to rip the O's for signing someone that failed their physical.

Should be good times.

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