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Austin Jackson or Pedro Alvarez? ( Jackson Signs in Chicago)


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What do O's do after getting spurned by Fowler?  

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  1. 1. What do O's do after getting spurned by Fowler?

    • Sign Alvarez
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    • Sign Jackson
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    • Roll with what we got
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How about sign Ian Desmond for pennies on the dollar, and trade Jonathan Schoop for a comparably promising young corner OF?

If I were signing Desmond I would be seeing what he could do in the OF. They said he practiced there this off season. I don't know what he can do but I am not trading Schoop away.

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My preference:

1. Trade for Jay Bruce - give up nothing more than a C prospect.

2. Sign Pedro Alvarez to a one year deal and play Davis or Trumbo in RF for a year - club teams to death.

3. Sign Austin Jackson.

If your 2 through 6 hitters could realistically mash 30, 30, 40, 35, 35 homeruns...scary. Add 20, 20 (Wieters and Schoop) on the end of that...

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Didn't they trade a guy to make room for Fowler earlier today? And there's no way we're trading with the Cubs.

Your in house guys are questionable at best. Go lock up 30 more bombs.

The Coughlan trade doesn't change the fact that they have 2 young guys who should start for one OF position - not to mention they have other OF depth.

Crying about what the Cubs did is like biting off your nose to spite your face. And if you're really angry at them, the best way to get back is make a good trade.

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If I were signing Desmond I would be seeing what he could do in the OF. They said he practiced there this off season. I don't know what he can do but I am not trading Schoop away.

I think his value is in his ability to play SS - even though he typically makes a lot of errors at the start of seasons. It's an interesting idea to sign him cheap, but I think it's generally a mistake to sign SS's whos numbers are already starting to drop (That sort of goes against what I just said, but I stand by it. :) ). I'd pass. Desmond made an ENORMOUS mistake not signing an extension in the previous offseason.

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All the points Captain Redbeard has been making in the case for Alvarez even with Fowler are stronger if Jackson slides into the Fowler role.

It's less overall quality on the roster - Jackson's more of a 110 game guy to Fowler's 150, he joins Hardy as a starter that Alvarez could pinch hit for on a regular basis, etc.

Both likely cost less than just Fowler short term.

But anything happening will I bet be a slow burn - I'm sure in the next couple days the Reds, Jackson's and Alvarez's asks of the Orioles will be momentarily inflated. Duquette will need some time to pass to reassert that the club still has an upper hand.

I'd actually be fine with Jackson or Alvarez. As a bench/backup bat, Alvarez was better because he could backup 1B/DH. Jackson wouldn't have done that if Trumbo or Davis gets hurt, as playing him requires playing one of our OFs (in that scenario Kim/Jones/Fowler) at DH and losing out on their defensive value. With no Fowler, there's still value in Jackson's defense.

I still prefer Alvarez because I want the left handed bat. Heck I'd still want both of them, and just have the scenario that I was proposing before where Alvarez is more of a part time player. But I won't be too upset if we only get one and choose Jackson over Alvarez.

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Looks like we slug away with Pedro and use Trumbo in the Outfield or hope Austin can get his OBP up and play great defense...

Freakin' Fowler!!!

I don't blame Fowler. I blame the guy that said that said Fowler signed a 3 year

deal last night. Some dope trying to be funny I guess. Maybe Jackson would be

the way for the FO to go now.

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It's not a no-brainer when Alvarez would push Trumbo and a potentially -10 or -15 glove into a full-time OF gig.

Is Trumbo really that bad in the OF? I mean he's bad, no doubt. His career UZR/150 out there is -8.5. His range is real bad but his arm is decent and he doesn't make a bunch of errors.

Also, Alvarez would be a part time DH, so we'd still have one or Rickard/Reimold playing vs LHP and Trumbo back at DH.

I think it's reasonable to think that Alvarez + Trumbo/Reimold defense as a RF is still a better player than Jackson's projected 91 wRC+ and good defense in RF. In any case they're pretty close scenarios.

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Stay with what we already have in house and then trade for a better replacement at the deadline if it is needed. I would showcase either Walker, Urrutia or Dariel Alvarez at Norfolk and use them as bait.

If you are thinking this way it is probably worthwhile to take a chance on Pedro for cheap--assuming he gets a Chris carter type deal.

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I think the idea of playing Trumbo in the outfield should be a nonstarter. This team is built around defense, and Trumbo can't play an adequate RF.

The case for Alvarez becomes much stronger if the idea is to play Davis full time in RF and to rotate Alvarez and Trumbo between 1B and DH. I thought Davis looked quite passable in RF last season and the numbers agree.

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