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Could Somebody tell Me Why MLB Bothers to Have Play Reviews & Challenges?


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Some people argue it slows the game down, and all I can ask is, how? Tell me what slows down the game more, the 2-3 minutes it takes for them to review a call, whatever it is, or the 5-15 minute discussion/argument/tirade the manager would get into with the umpire? Sure they're entertaining, but when it goes beyond just arguing a call or standing up for your player to flat out showing up the game and making a spectacle, then it is simply intolerable to the fan to sit through. It's not a perfect system, but in my view, it doesn't slow down the game any more than a manger would have in the past. In fact, I argue it's made it faster.

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Some people argue it slows the game down, and all I can ask is, how? Tell me what slows down the game more, the 2-3 minutes it takes for them to review a call, whatever it is, or the 5-15 minute discussion/argument/tirade the manager would get into with the umpire? Sure they're entertaining, but when it goes beyond just arguing a call or standing up for your player to flat out showing up the game and making a spectacle, then it is simply intolerable to the fan to sit through. It's not a perfect system, but in my view, it doesn't slow down the game any more than a manger would have in the past. In fact, I argue it's made it faster.

My argument is that managers should never be allowed on the field. So you don't have the tirade. If he comes on the field give him a five game suspension and a big fine. That would take care of that.

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You take the good with the bad on replays.

They won the other night, in part, because replays put the HBP on 1st, when it just nicked his shoe top and the umpire missed it.

But was it the right call? If so, then thats what replay is there to do.

Last night is just the most recent example of total replay incompetence. There is no problem with replay "getting it right" nor should getting calls right at times excuse not getting obvious calls right when they miss it. So saying, oh they got some right so all is good is not acceptable.

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But was it the right call? If so, then thats what replay is there to do.

Last night is just the most recent example of total replay incompetence. There is no problem with replay "getting it right" nor should getting calls right at times excuse not getting obvious calls right when they miss it. So saying, oh they got some right so all is good is not acceptable.

Of course, it was the right call, replays were clear.

We got a home run in San Diego off the replays, when it hit the yellow bar on top of the outfield wall.

I would suspect that if you looked at the pros and cons of instant replay in 2016 for the Orioles, its helped them, more than, its hurt them.

How do you know they are obvious, and how do you know that the replays they are seeing in NY, aren't as clear as the ones MASN is showing you on your TV set?

The Chris Davis home run, was so high over the pole, even replays couldn't clearly show it well enough.

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My only issue is they are reversing calls without definitive proof. The whole idea of replay is to get it right of course, but unless you have definitive proof, the call on the field should stay. I think you give the replay folks 45 seconds and if they can't see definitive proof, the call stands and you move on.

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I wish the replay umpire was in the stadium. I get the idea of a 'neutral' party reviewing instead of someone that made the call, but I would like the idea of the person to be there and held responsible so that if a poor call happened, the manager could actually let the person with the final decision know his thoughts.

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Eventually technology should be able to fix all of this.

Once cameras are good enough, you could have a camera covering all aspects of the field and you could design software that would be able to tell almost instantaneously if someone was safe, a ball is a home run, fair, foul, etc.

Then, if you challenge a call, the umpire is just notified what the correct call is, and you move on. Should take like 5 seconds.

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My argument is that managers should never be allowed on the field. So you don't have the tirade. If he comes on the field give him a five game suspension and a big fine. That would take care of that.

So they shouldn't be allowed to take out their pitchers? Or go out with a trainer if a guy gets hurt? Because when you say they should never be allowed on the field, you have to literally remove every reason for them to be on the field, and that is simply never going to happen.

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Baseball reminds me of politicians-once laws are enacted, they never come off the books. Just like interleague will never go away, nor too will the stupid slide rule at 2nd nor the use of instant replay. No matter how dumb the change is, Baseball is too much of a bureaucracy to change. We are stuck with it so no use in complaining...all you are doing is raking leaves in the wind.

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Of course, it was the right call, replays were clear.

We got a home run in San Diego off the replays, when it hit the yellow bar on top of the outfield wall.

I would suspect that if you looked at the pros and cons of instant replay in 2016 for the Orioles, its helped them, more than, its hurt them.

How do you know they are obvious, and how do you know that the replays they are seeing in NY, aren't as clear as the ones MASN is showing you on your TV set?

The Chris Davis home run, was so high over the pole, even replays couldn't clearly show it well enough.

Please, for the love of God, learn how to use commas. Anyway, if it's clear on MASN, it should be just as clear in the replays NY has. There's no excuse for missing something as obvious as the Wieters homer

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You have to admit, Earl Weaver's tirades were more entertaining than watching a bunch of umps standing around with headphones on.

Yes, they were. But they resulted in a favorable outcome for the Orioles dramatically less often than replay. And growing up watching Earl, Billy, and John McEnroe... let's just say the other kids on the street didn't think it was so entertaining when I followed Earl's lead and refused to accept I was out on any close play.

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Yes, they were. But they resulted in a favorable outcome for the Orioles dramatically less often than replay. And growing up watching Earl, Billy, and John McEnroe... let's just say the other kids on the street didn't think it was so entertaining when I followed Earl's lead and refused to accept I was out on any close play.

My dad thought Earl was an arse for his temper tantrums.

He didn't care too much for Billy Martin or Bobby Cox either.

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Baseball reminds me of politicians-once laws are enacted, they never come off the books. Just like interleague will never go away, nor too will the stupid slide rule at 2nd nor the use of instant replay. No matter how dumb the change is, Baseball is too much of a bureaucracy to change. We are stuck with it so no use in complaining...all you are doing is raking leaves in the wind.

Baseball's attitude has long been that the rules were handed to Alexander Cartwright or Abner Doubleday or whatever on stone tablets by God himself in 1840 and unless there's some active cataclysm they ain't changing, ever. And when by some miracle something does change, even if it's objectively better the vast majority of the time, it will be ridiculed and picked apart by those who wonder why baseball can't be as good as it was when they were 12.

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