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7 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

The argument makes no sense. You want to lose in order to win. Why not just win now when we have the chance? 

We can still get plenty for Britton after the all star break this year, in the offseason next year, or even at the all star break next year. There is absolutely no reason to throw in the towel in December after we made it to the wild card and both teams ahead of us are losing their best players.

I want to lose in order to win? How do you figure that?

I want to win this year. That doesn't mean I want to win with Britton. I'd much prefer to deal him this offseason for a very nice package of young pieces that can help us in the near future and will be here past the Buck/DD era that is going to be coming to an end before long that they don't seem to care about. Britton isn't going to be here long-term. I'd prefer to move him and get some pieces that have the potential to be core pieces to this franchise long-term.

Yeah, let's keep this core that is entact for next 2-3 years and then watch them all walk and have nothing left and have to watch 100 loss season after 100 loss season. Sorry if I don't care to watch that.

I want to win as much as anyone else. I also don't want to be so short-term minded. If we had pieces to bring in an ace, a top of the order bat with speed to set the order, etc. to make us a legit WS type team then fine let's go for it. But hey, we don't.

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17 minutes ago, ISU94 said:

I want to lose in order to win? How do you figure that?

You literally said that it would not be a good thing if we are in the playoff race at the deadline. 

 

I do agree, I would listen to offers on Britton, but I am not in any rush to trade him. I would have to be blown away. Someone like Bregman.

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2 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

You literally said that it would not be a good thing if we are in the playoff race at the deadline. 

 

I do agree, I would listen to offers on Britton, but I am not in any rush to trade him. I would have to be blown away. Someone like Bregman.

I imagine this is what Dan is thinking when he says he wants to keep Britton. Teams are going to have to offer a lot to pry him away. As it should be.

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1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:

You literally said that it would not be a good thing if we are in the playoff race at the deadline. 

 

I do agree, I would listen to offers on Britton, but I am not in any rush to trade him. I would have to be blown away. Someone like Bregman.

In regards to not moving Britton this offseason and keeping him just to deal him at deadline like the Yankees did with Chapman...yes, it would be. 

 

That would likely mean Britton would be here til he walks in FA and we get nothing but a comp pick. 

If you seriously interpret that post as me not wanting to see my team in contention then.....

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1 hour ago, El Gordo said:

I imagine this is what Dan is thinking when he says he wants to keep Britton. Teams are going to have to offer a lot to pry him away. As it should be.

No doubt. i completely agree too. Hes a valuable asset and a hot commodity on the market. I honestly have little doubt he could get a top end package like that. I think a package that should be taken will get offered and we'll still be so caught up in right now we'd pass on it.

 

Hope I'm wrong but I get that feeling. We just seem to want to do everything we can in these next couple seasons without much thought for the future. Its how its been for the past few years. Not going to get my hopes up until DD shows that he cares about anything past 2018.

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6 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

Although I would listen to trade offers on Britton. They would have to help us now and in the future. 

Absolutely - I think this can happen too.

I expect Britton to stay however, at least for one more year.  The Orioles asking price will be, and should be, very high.  After this upcoming season I think the chances of him going are much higher and I can be fine with that depending on how they address the outfield and catching positions.

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I've always heard two rules about trading

1. Sell high. That's what we would be doing with Britton. His value will never be higher, I believe. He is going to soon be too expensive for us as well.

2. Trade from strength. I believe we could move Oday or Brach to Britton's role and they would do well. We also have several arms we could then move up to 7th inning roles. Bullpen is one of our strengths now.

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2 hours ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

I've always heard two rules about trading

1. Sell high. That's what we would be doing with Britton. His value will never be higher, I believe. He is going to soon be too expensive for us as well.

2. Trade from strength. I believe we could move Oday or Brach to Britton's role and they would do well. We also have several arms we could then move up to 7th inning roles. Bullpen is one of our strengths now.

And it's always better to do it 1 year too early than 1 year too late.

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8 hours ago, ISU94 said:

No doubt. i completely agree too. Hes a valuable asset and a hot commodity on the market. I honestly have little doubt he could get a top end package like that. I think a package that should be taken will get offered and we'll still be so caught up in right now we'd pass on it.

 

Hope I'm wrong but I get that feeling. We just seem to want to do everything we can in these next couple seasons without much thought for the future. Its how its been for the past few years. Not going to get my hopes up until DD shows that he cares about anything past 2018.

Did we criticize Syd Thrift much for not thinking past 2002?  DD sure catches a lot of heat for putting a team out there that wins games every year.  

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