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Roch Kubatko: Adam Jones and Winning


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25 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I found it amusing how Jones makes it sound like the Orioles have a history of making big acquisitions at the deadline.

He says a lot of stuff that leaves me scratching my head.

Someone posted that he'd make a good GM.    I don't think so.    He knows baseball but he'd be even worse than Duquette when it comes to sacrificing future assets for marginal present gains.   

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

McCutchen's defense has fallen off the face of the earth the last couple of years.    I doubt you'd want either one in CF in 2019.

Well, the facts are there, you're right about Andrew, Frobby.  Think he'll stink as a COF, as well?  Do you believe having him and Jones as our COFers in 2018 going forward, would put the team in dire straights?  Think we could get Incarte or Kiermaier in a trade next year?  Just curious, have you ever met or spoken to Frank Robinson?

 

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27 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Someone posted that he'd make a good GM.    I don't think so.    He knows baseball but he'd be even worse than Duquette when it comes to sacrificing future assets for marginal present gains.   

He knows baseball but he doesn't seem to put enough weight in advanced metrics.  He's more of an old school type.  I'm not sure those guys can survive in the present environment.

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2 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Need to get younger, faster, more athletic and better defenders in the OF

There is no scenario that I want Adam Jones or Andrew McCutcheon in the O's OF in 2019

How many bad contracts to 30+ players is is going to take before the O's see the light?

When they start losing.   By which time, it will take years to dig out.  

It would be nice if we had some good solutions to the OF in our farm system, but we don't.   Our best hope is Austin Hays, but it's far too soon to guess whether he's a quality major leaguer.    Stewart, Mullins and Gassaway strike me as role players at best.  

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7 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Need to get younger, faster, more athletic and better defenders in the OF

There is no scenario that I want Adam Jones or Andrew McCutcheon in the O's OF in 2019

How many bad contracts to 30+ players is is going to take before the O's see the light?

Wait.  You're actually upset with the Orioles about something that hasn't happened?

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On 2/4/2017 at 2:01 PM, weams said:

Agreed.

Yeah, I don't think he is real frustrated. But I appreciate him saying what I have been saying which being competitive is what it is about, it is about winning it all. Too many people, IMO, have been saying, "well, we had all those losing seasons so what we have recently is great." The great ones, the winners, they don't think like that. Now, Jones has been a lot of talking, it is time to back it up.

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56 minutes ago, pastorfan said:

Yeah, I don't think he is real frustrated. But I appreciate him saying what I have been saying which being competitive is what it is about, it is about winning it all. Too many people, IMO, have been saying, "well, we had all those losing seasons so what we have recently is great." The great ones, the winners, they don't think like that. Now, Jones has been a lot of talking, it is time to back it up.

I so rarely agree with you. Winning after all those dark years is a great thing. But now it really is about the next step. And Adam isn't the only one talking. CD said about just getting to the playoffs isn't enough. He wants to win the division, win it all. A lot of these guys have been there three times now. And they know like you said, it's time to back it up. Put up or shut up.

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