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That Loss Was On Buck but Wilson must go

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Who's spot is most precarious on 40-man? Tyler Wilson!

Keep Asher, option Wilson and then DFA Wilson for Fister or Lewis (here's a link on that topic: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/04/cafardos-latest-braun-mariners-diamondbacks-red-sox-fister.html?fv-home=true&post-id=90154)

or whatever dumpster diving you find for him, I have seen enough of both Wilson and Wright.

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The constant need to say every loss was "on" someone or to pinpoint blame is annoying. Sometimes you just lose.

If there's such a thing as a loss you can shrug off, that was the very definition of it. The Orioles were using a minor-league fifth-starter callup and went up against a very good pitcher. They probably couldn't use O'Day, Brach, or Britton because they'd all pitched two days in a row, so they had a thin bullpen. Entering the game, nobody would've been surprised or especially upset by an Orioles loss under those circumstances. At least they made it exciting at the end.

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2 minutes ago, PaulFolk said:

The constant need to say every loss was "on" someone or to pinpoint blame is annoying. Sometimes you just lose.

If there's such a thing as a loss you can shrug off, that was the very definition of it. The Orioles were using a minor-league fifth-starter callup and went up against a very good pitcher. They probably couldn't use O'Day, Brach, or Britton because they'd all pitched two days in a row, so they had a thin bullpen. Entering the game, nobody would've been surprised or especially upset by an Orioles loss under those circumstances. At least they made it exciting at the end.

Leaving a 4apitcher in with the game on the line in the bottom of the 9th is annoying. 

Sounds like you have low standards in general. That's fine, but when you got the Blue Jays on the ropes, you go for the KO.

 

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Going into Toronto with the potential of winning 3 out of 4 is great. I think Givens could have been used there but the more I think about it, it's not a big deal. We have Bundy going tomorrow with basically a fully rested bullpen now and a day off Monday.

Get the W tomorrow and travel to Cinci for a HR show from our guys.

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1 minute ago, Rene88 said:

Leaving a 4apitcher in with the game on the line in the bottom of the 9th is annoying. 

Sounds like you have low standards in general. That's fine, but when you got the Blue Jays on the ropes, you go for the KO.

 

There is no good option in that situation. Take Wilson out of the game and burn Brach. Then your best case scenario is a tie game with Brach and Wilson out of the game and Nuno is your only available guy against a RH hitting team. No thanks.

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There is no good option in that situation. Take Wilson out of the game and burn Brach. Then your best case scenario is a tie game with Brach and Wilson out of the game and Nuno is your only available guy against a RH hitting team. No thanks.

If you get a run the next inning, it's all worth it.

Agree to disagree sir. Respect your opinion.

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17 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Who's spot is most precarious on 40-man? Tyler Wilson!

Keep Asher, option Wilson and then DFA Wilson for Fister or Lewis (here's a link on that topic: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/04/cafardos-latest-braun-mariners-diamondbacks-red-sox-fister.html?fv-home=true&post-id=90154)

or whatever dumpster diving you find for him, I have seen enough of both Wilson and Wright.

Why does Fister keep getting mentioned with the 40 man? He would be a minor league deal and would need a few starts in the minors before even possibly making the MLB roster.

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3 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Leaving a 4apitcher in with the game on the line in the bottom of the 9th is annoying. 

Sounds like you have low standards in general. That's fine, but when you got the Blue Jays on the ropes, you go for the KO.

 

I don't think I said anything about having low standards. But you have to look at the situation realistically. The Orioles' three best relievers were unavailable, and Hart had already been used. That leaves Wilson, Nuno, and Givens (and even Givens might've needed some rest too). I would've gone with Givens if he was available, but chances are either Wilson or Nuno would've ended up in the game eventually if it had gone to extras.

I get being annoyed at Wilson, but I don't blame Buck for using him there.

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Wilson isn't a late game reliever. This isn't his spot we all know that including the manager. He is a long man.  

Yes, and under normal circumstances, he wouldn't be a late game reliever. But these weren't normal circumstances. All the go-to late game relievers (except maybe Givens) were unavailable.

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Yes, and under normal circumstances, he wouldn't be a late game reliever. But these weren't normal circumstances. All the go-to late game relievers (except maybe Givens) were unavailable.

Exactly, I am agreeing with you. I don't know where Givens was.  He was willing to use Brach with a lead for an inning.  

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