We are a 10th place team

[Beef Supreme]

10 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think the owner/physical is a lot more likely to turn pitchers off.

I was thinking this, too.

[Beef Supreme]

4 hours ago, wildcard said:

What changed?

The bar in centerfield.

[wildcard]

4 hours ago, Enjoy Terror said:

 

This means that in the years 2010-2016, Camden Yards produced 108 runs for every 100 runs produced in the average MLB park, and 122 HRs for every 100 homers, for a mean Park Factor of 115.

This is an extreme hitter's park.

Isn't this backwards?

Those park factors are based on homeruns and runs scored in the parks.  That's dependent on the makeups of the teams that play in them.

The Orioles hit lots of home runs, the Giants don't-- that's because we've built the lineup for home run/strikeout artists with terrible home rotations while the Giants manufacture runs with small ball and also have a dynamite pitching staff. 

Is it an extreme hitters park because we have extreme hitters? Or do we have extreme hitters because it's a hitters park?

So how do we  know if the hitters power is the reason for more homers or the fact that the power alleys of Camden are short which makes it easier to hit homers.

[Frobby]

 

9 hours ago, thezeroes said:

http://www.parkfactors.com/BAL

 

Read it and weep, laugh, cry or whatever floats your boat.

 

5 hours ago, wildcard said:

Conclusion:This is an extreme hitter's park.

A few points about this site.    They use data from 2010-16, and come up with one number for runs scored (108 for the Orioles) and another for home runs (122), and then average the two for their overall park factor (115).     To me, the relevant number here is the 108, since what we want to know is the run-scoring environment, not the home run environment or some average of the two.    It's already been conceded that OPACY is a very homer-friendly ballpark.

The second obvious point is that this site is using a seven-year average.   BB-ref gives a one-year factor and a "multi-year factor" based on the last three years.    

The third thing is some apparent nuanced difference in methodology.     From what I see, parkfactors.com is merely looking at runs scored at home vs. on the road for each team.    See explanation at the bottom of this page:  http://www.parkfactors.com/

BB-ref has a more complicated system that starts with runs scored and allowed at home vs. on the road, and then makes three adjustments:  

1.    Adjusts for innings played at home and on the road (extra inning games and whether a team was ahead or behind after 8.5 innings will affect the number of opportunities to score or allow runs.

2.   Excludes interleague games (AL home games have the DH, NL home games don't).

3.    Adjusts for who each team plays on the road (playing 9-10 road games a year in Fenway is not the same as playing 9-10 road games a year in the Oakland Colliseum).

More detailed explanation here:  https://www.baseball-reference.com/about/parkadjust.shtml

So, you can decide for yourself which system you think is better, but I prefer BB-ref's.    Their one-year park factors for 2010-16 (same years covered by parkfactors.com) are:

2010: 102/104 (hitters/pitchers)

2011: 96/97

2012: 109/109

2013: 103/103

2014: 97/96

2015: 109/109

2016: 101/101

7 year average: 102.4/102.6

2017: 93/93