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31 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Nobody ever accused Adam of underestimating himself.    He probably does do considerably better than 3/$36 mm if he puts up .280/27/85 in 2018.    I’m sure he’s thinkIng Torii Hunter got 5/$90 mm for his age 32-36 seasons.   But I doubt that deal will be out there for Jones’s 33-37 seasons.   

He's Capt10America to everyone else. Everyone. We are the only ones that see him in a diminished stature. "Familiarity breeds contempt."

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56 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I believe your right ....but it's time for a very team friendly deal imo

Yes and Adam will say that is what he did the first extension.  Not this time.  I think we will see exactly how much emotional attachment to Baltimore he actually has.  Like other players, I think he will take the most money no matter what. 

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14 hours ago, TommyPickles said:

I think Jones will stay too. I think he would bring a lot of intangible value as a leader to the team and a mentor to the young outfielders. Mancini and Rickard speak highly of him, as I'm sure Hays, Mullins, etc would too. I just hope we don't overpay too much. Would 3/40 with some incentives be too much of a lowball?

I don't think so. I don't know what more he might want at this stage. I think he has peaked, and his declining years are ahead. 

In my view, Adam can go ahead and test the FA market. I think he'll find it less hospitable to 30-something outfielders who refuse to move off center field. In other words, I actually think Adam will stay an Oriole, because it will probably make sense for both sides. 

We get a popular "name" player for a few more years, and get to tout our continuity and credibility and "we kept a fan favorite." Adam makes another 40 million for riding out the final few years of mediocrity. 

Everybody wins! Except... nobody really wins in that scenario. (Sorry for the downer on Christmas!)

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6 hours ago, capyy said:

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I want to see AJ retire as an Oriole. Find a middle ground and keep him.

The middle ground is for Adam to move to RF. He is an iconic Oriole and he is still a very good player. His skills fit RF to a "T". I too would like to see an extension for AJ, but to me he has to embrace a move to RF first.

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On 12/23/2017 at 2:21 PM, weams said:

We will be lucky if we get two outfielders out of Mancini, Stewart, Hayes, and Mullins. 

We already have one in Mancini and Hays looks good to me. Mullins is at least a 4th OF. That leaves Stewert and Mountcastle. I like our chances.

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On 12/23/2017 at 5:23 PM, Can_of_corn said:

Fans and front offices of other teams also have access to advanced statistics.

I'll be surprised if Jones can get Trumbo money.  IMO, this is probably his last year as CF. No playoff team is going to sign him unless its for a one year deal. He may decide to go to SD or non-competitive team with no bats, if they offer him a better deal than the O's. It sounds like Jones wants to look out for his own interests this time around. 

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Surprised if he could get Trumbo money? Really? Adam Jones is by far a superior baseball player to Mark Trumbo and it isn't even close. If they were both RFers Jones would be among the best in the game defensively and Trumbo has no business with a glove on his hand. Now that said, we were exceedingly stupid to give Trumbo the contract he got. But in no world I have ever lived in is Adam Jones not worth more than Mark Trumbo.

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1 hour ago, jabba72 said:

 

I'll be surprised if Jones can get Trumbo money.  IMO, this is probably his last year as CF. No playoff team is going to sign him unless its for a one year deal. He may decide to go to SD or non-competitive team with no bats, if they offer him a better deal than the O's. It sounds like Jones wants to look out for his own interests this time around. 

You think he wasn’t looking out for his best interests the last time out?    His deal was very good when he signed it, as he had never put up a season in excess of 3 rWAR to that point.   But then he posted seasons of 3.8, 4.6, 4.9 and 3.3 and in hindsight the O’s got a good deal.    

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9 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

Unless 2018 is a complete disaster and 2019 is the beginning of a complete rebuild.

To other teams he's an aging COF. To the O's he's an aging CF/COF, team leader, veteran  presence, PA pet, fan favorite and community activist.

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On 12/23/2017 at 4:32 PM, Frobby said:

Nobody ever accused Adam of underestimating himself.    He probably does do considerably better than 3/$36 mm if he puts up .280/27/85 in 2018.    I’m sure he’s thinkIng Torii Hunter got 5/$90 mm for his age 32-36 seasons.   But I doubt that deal will be out there for Jones’s 33-37 seasons.   

O's bought out his last two arbitration years and I always got the impression Jones wishes he wouldnt have done that.

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