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1 hour ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

Was Ken Rosenthal wrong about the Orioles being in serious trade discussions with the Brewers? I sure hope not.

Not sure if he was wrong or not, but I don't think the Moustakas deal will prevent the Brewers from making other moves.

They really didn't give up much,  so unless money is the issue the still have all their top prospects to make more moves.

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Ok - this post is intended to be crazy and an ode to a former most prolific poster here who I frequently disagreed with - 

We deal one of Gausman/Bundy plus Schoop to Milwaukee for a trade centered on Travis Shaw and prospects - Ortiz plus a lottery ticket.  Maybe off by a prospect or two or perhaps not.

This means the Brewers deal Shaw, Ortiz and Phillips plus perhaps other and net Schoop, Moustakas and Gausman.  A pretty good offensive upgrade considering Moose is near Shaw offensively (not defensively) and the red-hot Schoop is a major improvement over the mediocre production received so far at 2B from Mil.  Milwaukee also ends up with one of Gausman/Bundy in a good pickup for them at SP.  The deal enables Milwaukee to keep Hiura and Woodruff and Burnes perhaps moving Schoop to 3B while promoting Hiura next year and not retaining Moose by declining his option.  Shaw is 28 and older than Schoop, but is on his way to a 4 WAR year at the minimum and will be in his first year of arbitration next year. 

The Os flip Shaw and 4 WAR production with his cost controlled status to the Braves!  And net big pitcher (perhaps Ian Anderson) and 3B prospect Rio Ruiz.

It all works - I checked it out.  ?  (Still trying to work on the iteration where we net Jeff Mathis and Justin Smoak and international slots and re-do the 2009 draft so that LAD take Rowell and we get Kershaw)

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3 hours ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

Was Ken Rosenthal wrong about the Orioles being in serious trade discussions with the Brewers? I sure hope not.

My guess is they were discussing Gausman or Bundy and Schoop. They Brewers must not have liked the price for Schoop and decided to go with Mike M instead.

Doesnt mean we can't trade a starter but I doubt they'd still want Johnny Baseball.

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18 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

My guess is they were discussing Gausman or Bundy and Schoop. They Brewers must not have liked the price for Schoop and decided to go with Mike M instead.

Doesnt mean we can't trade a starter but I doubt they'd still want Johnny Baseball.

Yeah, or possibly were never interested in Schoop seriously, the report by Rosenthal mentioned that he wasn't aware of who they were discussing.

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47 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Yeah, or possibly were never interested in Schoop seriously, the report by Rosenthal mentioned that he wasn't aware of who they were discussing.

Correct. And also, this tweet, concerning Phillips. Just because he was traded, doesn't mean there's still not a deal, being discussed.

 

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3 hours ago, hoosiers said:

Ok - this post is intended to be crazy and an ode to a former most prolific poster here who I frequently disagreed with - 

We deal one of Gausman/Bundy plus Schoop to Milwaukee for a trade centered on Travis Shaw and prospects - Ortiz plus a lottery ticket.  Maybe off by a prospect or two or perhaps not.

This means the Brewers deal Shaw, Ortiz and Phillips plus perhaps other and net Schoop, Moustakas and Gausman.  A pretty good offensive upgrade considering Moose is near Shaw offensively (not defensively) and the red-hot Schoop is a major improvement over the mediocre production received so far at 2B from Mil.  Milwaukee also ends up with one of Gausman/Bundy in a good pickup for them at SP.  The deal enables Milwaukee to keep Hiura and Woodruff and Burnes perhaps moving Schoop to 3B while promoting Hiura next year and not retaining Moose by declining his option.  Shaw is 28 and older than Schoop, but is on his way to a 4 WAR year at the minimum and will be in his first year of arbitration next year. 

The Os flip Shaw and 4 WAR production with his cost controlled status to the Braves!  And net big pitcher (perhaps Ian Anderson) and 3B prospect Rio Ruiz.

It all works - I checked it out.  ?  (Still trying to work on the iteration where we net Jeff Mathis and Justin Smoak and international slots and re-do the 2009 draft so that LAD take Rowell and we get Kershaw)

Not sure about the Braves deal, but Shaw would be a good fit for the O's as a lefty hitting 3B. Still, I would be a little surprised to see the Brewers give him up. If they think Shaw can play 2B, it seems debatable whether Schoop would be an upgrade over Shaw at all (arguably, Schoop is also a 3B in a 2B body, and if Schoop has the edge in power, Shaw certainly has the edge in OBP). If they gave up Shaw *and* Hiura, they would need to get a monster return.

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5 hours ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

Was Ken Rosenthal wrong about the Orioles being in serious trade discussions with the Brewers? I sure hope not.

Why?   We don't need to trade Schoop or Gausman now.   Can trade them in off season for maximum value.  

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