Will Rob Manfred get another term as Commissioner?

[wildcard]

His term is up January 24, 2020.   About a year an a half from now.    Do you think the MLB owners vote him in for another term?

I think I know how the O's would vote.

[Frobby]

I think he’ll get another term.    I haven’t heard any rumblings that a large number of owners are dissatisfied with him.    Certainly one is.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Frobby said:

I think he’ll get another term.    I haven’t heard any rumblings that a large number of owners are dissatisfied with him.    Certainly one is.

Revenue is high but I do have to wonder if the recent dip in attendance could be an issue.

[Smilin' Joe Fission]

I sure hope not

[weams]

16 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think he’ll get another term.    I haven’t heard any rumblings that a large number of owners are dissatisfied with him.    Certainly one is.

I agree.

[Diehard_O's_Fan]

The Orioles not getting the 2019 All Star game is absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. Camden Yards is one of the nicest stadiums in baseball. I absolutely cannot believe that Camden Yards has only had one all star game.

[Frobby]

3 minutes ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

The Orioles not getting the 2019 All Star game is absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. Camden Yards is one of the nicest stadiums in baseball. I absolutely cannot believe that Camden Yards has only had one all star game.

There are 30 teams in MLB.    One all star game every 30 years is par for the course.   There hasn’t been one at Dodger Stadium in 38 years (but they’ll have it in 2020, 40 years after the last one).   So far as I’m concerned, we can’t start whining about this until 2023.

[Number5]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

There are 30 teams in MLB.    One all star game every 30 years is par for the course.   There hasn’t been one at Dodger Stadium in 38 years (but they’ll have it in 2020, 40 years after the last one).   So far as I’m concerned, we can’t start whining about this until 2023.

Yeah, but Cito still sucks.

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, Number5 said:

Yeah, but Cito still sucks.

[wildcard]

Manfred is big on talking up expansion.

The Mariners are not happy with the idea of teams in Vancouver or Portland.

The Braves can't  be happy about a team in Charlotte.

The Braves, Reds and Cardinals all will have something to say about a team in Nashville.

TV rights are at issue for all and attendance in some of those markets.

I would think that some owners would want to know where Manfred is going to come up with 48 more major league pitchers for 4 more teams.

The Angels may be a little upset with Manfred for goes after Mike Trout.

 

[Frobby]

14 minutes ago, Frobby said:

There are 30 teams in MLB.    One all star game every 30 years is par for the course.   There hasn’t been one at Dodger Stadium in 38 years (but they’ll have it in 2020, 40 years after the last one).   So far as I’m concerned, we can’t start whining about this until 2023.

Just to elaborate on this, since Baltimore last hosted the all star game, only three teams have hosted twice (or are scheduled to do so):

Pittsburgh: Three Rivers in 1994 and PNC in 2006.

Cleveland: Jacobs Field in 1997 and scheduled in 2019.

Atlanta: Turner Field in 2000 and SunTrust Stadium scheduled in 2021.

The following teams haven’t hosted an all star game since before 1993:

Tampa (never hosted; only became a team in 1998), Toronto (last hosted 1991), Oakland (never hosted since moving to Oakland in 1968), Chicago Cubs (last hosted 1990).

[SeaBird]

As of June 16th, MLB attendance was off by 6.5% from 2017.  The tables and charts below are from a Forbes article on MLB's attendance issues with causes for attendance drops and recommendations to fix it.

The article,from july 25th, is a good read and can be found here:  https://www.forbes.com/sites/kpmg/2018/07/25/still-in-their-infancy-ai-algorithms-need-parenting/#59762a7e2fca

 

Rk	Team	2017 Ganes	2017 Avg	2018 Avg	YoY Diff (total)	YoY Diff (per game)
1	Astros	33	29,055	35,333	207,171	6,278
2	Brewers	29	28,753	33,323	132,530	4,570
3	D-Backs	32	22,691	25,832	100,498	3,141
4	Yankees	31	38,838	41,315	76,802	2,477
5	Braves	28	29,307	30,896	44,511	1,590
6	Dodgers	34	44,580	45,843	42,959	1,264
7	Angels	35	36,202	37,074	30,503	872
8	Mets	34	30,421	30,724	10,288	303
9	Rockies	30	35,140	35,378	7,148	238
10	Padres	39	25,138	25,191	2,061	53
11	Twins	34	22,179	22,188	289	8
12	Mariners	32	24,669	24,377	-9,324	-291
13	Cubs	32	38,511	37,866	-20,642	-645
14	Nationals	32	31,257	30,169	-34,818	-1,088
15	Red Sox	34	35,669	34,524	-38,939	-1,145
16	Rays	28	14,907	13,681	-34,336	-1,226
17	Phillies	31	26,916	25,257	-51,449	-1,660
18	Cardinals	33	43,034	41,328	-56,305	-1,706
19	A's	34	17,980	15,510	-83,962	-2,469
20	Giants	30	41,650	38,835	-84,448	-2,815
21	Indians	31	21,988	19,079	-90,204	-2,910
22	Reds	34	22,063	18,746	-112,798	-3,318
23	White Sox	29	21,051	16,906	-120,206	-4,145
24	Rangers	36	32,349	27,863	-161,494	-4,486
25	Royals	31	26,036	20,057	-185,357	-5,979
26	Pirates	33	23,112	16,233	-227,000	-6,879
27	Tigers	37	28,460	21,067	-273,519	-7,392
28	Orioles	28	28,000	19,880	-227,353	-8,120
29	Marlins	31	20,490	10,697	-303,571	-9,793
30	Blue Jays	35	38,687	27,269	-399,611	-11,417
	Total	970	29,402	27,483	-1,860,576	-1,918

Below shows total attendance and per-game average ranking as of 6/16/18:

RK	TEAM	TOTAL	AVG	% of capacity
1	LA Dodgers	1,755,352	46,193	82.50
2	NY Yankees	1,506,444	41,845	84.30
3	St. Louis	1,582,435	41,643	94.70
4	San Francisco	1,165,058	38,835	92.70
5	Chicago Cubs	1,211,714	37,866	92.00
6	LA Angels	1,297,581	37,073	81.70
7	Colorado	1,061,340	35,378	70.10
8	Houston	1,165,990	35,333	86.30
9	Boston	1,173,820	34,524	92.10
10	Milwaukee	1,160,691	34,137	81.50
11	Atlanta	1,035,668	31,383	76.40
12	NY Mets	1,044,602	30,723	73.50
13	Washington	965,392	30,168	72.70
14	Toronto	1,020,105	28,336	57.50
15	Texas	1,056,986	27,815	56.60
16	Arizona	990,132	26,056	53.60
17	Seattle	967,922	25,471	53.20
18	San Diego	960,909	25,287	62.50
19	Philadelphia	845,090	24,855	56.90
20	Minnesota	754,384	22,860	61.60
21	Detroit	846,613	21,708	52.60
22	Baltimore	659,549	20,610	45.40
23	Cleveland	654,356	20,448	47.10
24	Kansas City	715,399	20,439	53.90
25	Cincinnati	637,359	18,745	44.30
26	Pittsburgh	586,188	17,240	44.90
27	Chicago White Sox	598,340	17,095	42.10
28	Oakland	598,809	15,354	43.80
29	Tampa Bay	415,833	13,413	39.40
30	Miami	359,367	10,267	27.40

Yearly total MLB attendance from 1995 through 2017

Total attendance numbers for Major League Baseball from 1995 to 2017FORBES RESEARCH, SOURCE MLB

Year	ML Total	% (+/-)
1995	50,469,236	0.90%
1996	60,097,381	19.10%
1997	63,168,689	5.10%
1998	70,372,221	11.40%
1999	70,139,380	-0.30%
2000	72,635,095	3.60%
2001	72,267,544	-0.50%
2002	67,859,176	-6.10%
2003	67,568,397	-0.40%
2004	73,022,969	8.10%
2005	74,702,034	2.30%
2006	76,042,787	1.80%
2007	79,503,175	4.60%
2008	78,588,004	-1.20%
2009	73,367,659	-6.60%
2010	72,568,780	-1.10%
2011	73,415,359	1.20%
2012	74,859,268	1.97%
2013	74,028,227	-1.11%
2014	73,739,622	-0.39%
2015	73,760,020	0.03%
2016	73,159,044	-0.81%
2017	72,670,423	-0.67%

Source: Major League Baseball

 

 

[Larry18]

MLB uses a bid system to decide the venue for the All-Star game. https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2018/4/12/17228466/dodgers-2020-all-star-game-cubs-chance

 

Manfred says the Orioles need to submit a "compelling" bid. https://www.baltimorebaseball.com/2018/07/17/manfred-says-orioles-need-compelling-bid-host-star-game/

[VaBird1]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

Manfred is big on talking up expansion.

The Mariners are not happy with the idea of teams in Vancouver or Portland.

The Braves can't  be happy about a team in Charlotte.

The Braves, Reds and Cardinals all will have something to say about a team in Nashville.

TV rights are at issue for all and attendance in some of those markets.

I would think that some owners would want to know where Manfred is going to come up with 48 more major league pitchers for 4 more teams.

The Angels may be a little upset with Manfred for goes after Mike Trout.

 

Those teams just need to chill out.  A team can move 30 miles away,sign an agreement, wait until they make the playoffs and just back out of the agreement.  What’s the big deal?

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, VaBird1 said:

Those teams just need to chill out.  A team can move 30 miles away,sign an agreement, wait until they make the playoffs and just back out of the agreement.  What’s the big deal?

Not what happened, but fantasize away.    The MASN deal called for the TV rights fees to be renegotiated every five years.    It so happens that the first period for renegotiation was 2012-16.    The negotiations happened before the 2012 season was played and the parties did not reach agreement, so they took the dispute to arbitration just as their agreement provided.   So, it had nothing to do with the Nats breaking the agreement and the timing had nothing to do with the Nats being in the playoffs.