How much today's managers are paid (Buck is tied for 4th)

[mdbdotcom]

Last month USA Today published a list of how much managers get paid. Buck is in the top five.

Mike Scioscia, Los Angeles Angels: $6 million 

Joe Maddon, Chicago Cubs, $6 million 

Bruce Bochy, San Francisco Giants: $6 million 

Terry Francona, Cleveland Indians: $4 million 

Buck Showalter, Baltimore Orioles: $4 million 

Ned Yost, Kansas City Royals: $3.7 million 

Clint Hurdle, Pittsburgh Pirates: $3 million 

#John Farrell, Boston Red Sox: $3 million 

Bob Melvin, Oakland A’s: $2.5 million 

Don Mattingly, Miami Marlins: $2.4 million 

#Mike Matheny, St. Louis Cardinals: $1.9 million 

John Gibbons, Toronto Blue Jays: $1.7 million 

Ron Gardenhire, Detroit Tigers: $1.5 million 

Craig Counsell, Milwaukee Brewers: $1.5 million 

Paul Molitor, Minnesota Twins: $1.5 million 

Bud Black, Colorado Rockies: $1.5 million 

#Bryan Price, Cincinnati Reds: $1.4 million 

A.J. Hinch, Houston Astros: $1.2 million 

Rick Renteria, Chicago White Sox: $1.2 million 

Aaron Boone, New York Yankees: $1.15 million 

Kevin Cash, Tampa Bay Rays: $1 million 

Dave Roberts, Los Angeles Dodgers: $1 million 

Andy Green, San Diego Padres: $1 million 

Jeff Bannister, Texas Rangers: $950,000 

Torey Lovullo, Arizona Diamondbacks: $900,000 

Davey Martinez, Washington Nationals: $850,000 

Mickey Callaway, New York Mets: $850,000 

Gabe Kapler, Philadelphia Phillies: $803,000 

Alex Cora, Boston Red Sox: $800,000 

Scott Servais, Seattle Mariners: $800,000 

Brian Snitker, Atlanta Braves: $800,000 

@Jim Riggleman, Cincinnati Reds: $700,000 (prorated) 

@Mike Shildt, St. Louis Cardinals: $700,00 (prorated) 

 

Continuing to pay Buck (who will turn 63 in May) $4 million a year while some of the best young managers in baseball, including Brian Snitker of the Braves and Alex Cora of the Red Sox, are making less than $1 million would make no sense at all. If we can't afford players who make that much, we certainly can't afford to pay a manager that much. The O's should hire one of the new breed type of managers; someone who relates to today's young players and isn't overpaid. 

[Aglets]

I'm pretty sure you don't have to worry about Buck commanding a big salary in Baltimore next year.

[UpstateNYfan]

I am shocked at how low most are. Scioscia is the biggest joke IMO. When you have non-regulars making multiple times more than some, it seems wrong...compared to basketball, football, it's pretty low. What do the coaches make?? $80,000??

[atomic]

Yeah I don't think it will be too hard to find a manager who can guide a team to 40 some wins.  No reason to pay someone 4 million.  Just find a good manager in the minor leagues somewhere and offer him a million dollars. 

[FuManchu]

Depending on how arbitration goes, if Buck came back at the same salary he could be the 5th highest paid Oriole next year.

[atomic]

Also I believe the other guys in the top 5 have won the World Series.   

[Redskins Rick]

1 hour ago, mdbdotcom said:

Last month USA Today published a list of how much managers get paid. Buck is in the top five.

Mike Scioscia, Los Angeles Angels: $6 million 

Joe Maddon, Chicago Cubs, $6 million 

Bruce Bochy, San Francisco Giants: $6 million 

Terry Francona, Cleveland Indians: $4 million 

Buck Showalter, Baltimore Orioles: $4 million 

Ned Yost, Kansas City Royals: $3.7 million 

Clint Hurdle, Pittsburgh Pirates: $3 million 

#John Farrell, Boston Red Sox: $3 million 

Bob Melvin, Oakland A’s: $2.5 million 

Don Mattingly, Miami Marlins: $2.4 million 

#Mike Matheny, St. Louis Cardinals: $1.9 million 

John Gibbons, Toronto Blue Jays: $1.7 million 

Ron Gardenhire, Detroit Tigers: $1.5 million 

Craig Counsell, Milwaukee Brewers: $1.5 million 

Paul Molitor, Minnesota Twins: $1.5 million 

Bud Black, Colorado Rockies: $1.5 million 

#Bryan Price, Cincinnati Reds: $1.4 million 

A.J. Hinch, Houston Astros: $1.2 million 

Rick Renteria, Chicago White Sox: $1.2 million 

Aaron Boone, New York Yankees: $1.15 million 

Kevin Cash, Tampa Bay Rays: $1 million 

Dave Roberts, Los Angeles Dodgers: $1 million 

Andy Green, San Diego Padres: $1 million 

Jeff Bannister, Texas Rangers: $950,000 

Torey Lovullo, Arizona Diamondbacks: $900,000 

Davey Martinez, Washington Nationals: $850,000 

Mickey Callaway, New York Mets: $850,000 

Gabe Kapler, Philadelphia Phillies: $803,000 

Alex Cora, Boston Red Sox: $800,000 

Scott Servais, Seattle Mariners: $800,000 

Brian Snitker, Atlanta Braves: $800,000 

@Jim Riggleman, Cincinnati Reds: $700,000 (prorated) 

@Mike Shildt, St. Louis Cardinals: $700,00 (prorated) 

 

Continuing to pay Buck (who will turn 63 in May) $4 million a year while some of the best young managers in baseball, including Brian Snitker of the Braves and Alex Cora of the Red Sox, are making less than $1 million would make no sense at all. If we can't afford players who make that much, we certainly can't afford to pay a manager that much. The O's should hire one of the new breed type of managers; someone who relates to today's young players and isn't overpaid. 

This article from last year, has the top guys on the list as being candidates for MLB HOF as managers.

I know many in OH will find fault with this.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/230767110/joe-maddon-1000-mlb-managers-hall-of-fame_partnerI_1

[foxfield]

8 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

This article from last year, has the top guys on the list as being candidates for MLB HOF as managers.

I know many in OH will find fault with this.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/230767110/joe-maddon-1000-mlb-managers-hall-of-fame_partnerI_1

I think the article is accurate.  It says he has done well in Baltimore and done it consistently with less.  That isn't debatable as the Orioles consistently outperformed expectations until Sept of last year.  It also says that without a WS win in Baltimore, he wont make it.  I agree.

[atomic]

12 minutes ago, foxfield said:

I think the article is accurate.  It says he has done well in Baltimore and done it consistently with less.  That isn't debatable as the Orioles consistently outperformed expectations until Sept of last year.  It also says that without a WS win in Baltimore, he wont make it.  I agree.

He has coached some pretty good teams and his winning percentage is right around .500.  I don't see why he would  even be considered.  Also the teams got better as soon as he left.  

[foxfield]

1 minute ago, atomic said:

He has coached some pretty good teams and his winning percentage is right around .500.  I don't see why he would  even be considered.  Also the teams got better as soon as he left.  

He won't unless he wins a WS in Baltimore.  I still agree with the article.  

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, atomic said:

He has coached some pretty good teams and his winning percentage is right around .500.  I don't see why he would  even be considered.  Also the teams got better as soon as he left.  

Lets keep slamming Buck. His W-L was significantly higher before this season.

Lets talk NY, so Buck gets fired and they won the WS the following year with the team that Buck built. Yet, lets blame Buck. The truth is, Buck refused to buckle to King George and fire his whole coaching staff.

Buck had a great run with the Diamondbacks, and built a very successful team there. But, hell, lets blame Buck.

 

[atomic]

7 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Lets keep slamming Buck. His W-L was significantly higher before this season.

Lets talk NY, so Buck gets fired and they won the WS the following year with the team that Buck built. Yet, lets blame Buck. The truth is, Buck refused to buckle to King George and fire his whole coaching staff.

 Buck had a great run with the Diamondbacks, and built a very successful team there. But, hell, lets blame Buck.

  

Most coaches have a bad record in their last season.  No way one World Series appearance.  I looked at the Hall of Fame Managers and the only one who came close to Buck would be Whitey Herzog with a 53 winning percent.  But Whitey took the team to the World Series 3 times and Won once. Most Hall of Fame managers have won it multiple times or been the same team for 20 years or something.  

[Ohfan67]

9 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Lets keep slamming Buck. His W-L was significantly higher before this season.

Lets talk NY, so Buck gets fired and they won the WS the following year with the team that Buck built. Yet, lets blame Buck. The truth is, Buck refused to buckle to King George and fire his whole coaching staff.

Buck had a great run with the Diamondbacks, and built a very successful team there. But, hell, lets blame Buck.

 

There's plenty of blame to go around; Buck deserves his share. 

[mdbdotcom]

11 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Lets keep slamming Buck. His W-L was significantly higher before this season.

Lets talk NY, so Buck gets fired and they won the WS the following year with the team that Buck built. Yet, lets blame Buck. The truth is, Buck refused to buckle to King George and fire his whole coaching staff.

Buck had a great run with the Diamondbacks, and built a very successful team there. But, hell, lets blame Buck.

 

If the Orioles let Buck go, perhaps you should start a GoFundMe for Buck, or offer him a job. You seem to be looking out for him.

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, atomic said:

Most coaches have a bad record in their last season.  No way one World Series appearance.  I looked at the Hall of Fame Managers and the only one who came close to Buck would be Whitey Herzog with a 53 winning percent.  But Whitey took the team to the World Series 3 times and Won once. Most Hall of Fame managers have won it multiple times or been the same team for 20 years or something.  

Buck is not going to win a HOF, but his name does deserve some consideration.

This day and ERA, no manager makes it with the same team for 20 years, it doesn't happen.