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1 minute ago, weams said:

Atlanta did not care for him either. I believe that he is a lot like our friend Rick Dempsey. Steps over some bodies and "palace intrigues" it a bit.  Gillick is great, I think Wren stinks. My opinion. In no way related to "Angelos v. Wren."

I agree Thrift was a horrible sign. 

In fact, so much of the criticism of the Orioles history is evident here. 

https://www.isportsweb.com/2017/07/16/2377117/

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“Cal Ripken, traveling from his home to meet the team’s privately chartered jet for an 8 a.m. flight to a game later that night in Anaheim, found himself delayed in congested traffic. He called the team’s traveling secretary, Phil Itzoe, by car phone to assure him that he would be arriving at the airport within the next five to 10 minutes. Itzoe relayed this information to Wren, who declared he would not wait beyond the scheduled departure time.

“At Wren’s order, the plane took off without Cal, who arrived at the gate a few minutes later. Cal was then forced to make his own cross-country travel arrangements. He had to hurry to the Washington, D.C., airport, where he found a flight to Vegas and then had to take another flight to California, arriving hours after the team.

“In the opinion of management, there was no need for such an arbitrary and inflexible decision. In the meeting, Wren defiantly dismissed our concerns, characterized them as ‘silly’ and insisted he would invoke the same takeoff order no matter what the extenuating circumstances. The Orioles management cannot and will not abide having a general manager operate in such an unreasonable, authoritarian manner and treat anyone this way, especially someone such as Cal who has done so much for the Orioles and for baseball.”

“Ray Miller is a gentleman and a fine baseball man, and I appreciate his efforts and the contributions he has made over the years to the Orioles organization. My best wishes go out to him in his future endeavors.”

 

I am sure there are other sides to this story. I am not interested in defending the Orioles on this. I am a Cal fan. Until he did the "sorry Brooksie." I forgave him though. 

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59 minutes ago, hoosiers said:

Honestly, that story, which I have seen posted numerous times, means nothing to me.  And should have little relevance in terms of having the best GM possible running the organization.

Hey, my opinion. I think Frank Wren is far from a good GM. My opinion. 

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