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Per Forbes, the Yankees revenues in 2018 was $619 mm  which  topped all of MLB.  The Orioles were 21st in MLB with revenues of $252mm.  So of course the Yankees have lots of money to spend.  The old adage is "Spend money to make money."

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They haven’t had a losing season since 1992. But yeah while it’s possible to be a winner with a smaller payroll, it’s far easier to be a consistent winner when you have the Yankees resources. That said, Cashmsn is a good GM. Not the greatest or best but more than just what I once thought, a check giver for the Steinbrenners.

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3 hours ago, Palmoripken said:

 

They havent had a losing season since 1992. But yeah, while its possible to be a winner with a smaller payroll, its far easier to be a consistent winner when you have the Yankees' resources. That said, Cashman is a good GM. Not the greatest or best, but more than just what I once thought, a check giver for the Steinbrenners.

 

o

 

As you alluded out, the Yankees also haven't had a season in which they weren't at least in the top-5 in payroll (and quite often, they have had the highest payroll in the Majors) in the last quarter of a Century.

As one Oriole fan said a long time ago when comparing the GM jobs of these 2 respective teams ....... You give me $200 Million-Plus year in and year out, and I'll put a winning, competitive team on the field year in and year out. You give me the restrictions that Andy MacPhail (and later Dan Duquette) have, and they'll hang me outside of OPACY.

 

So considering the surrounding circumstances, it's not all that overly impressive that the Yankees have been able to win a bare minimum of 85 - 88 wins year in and year out as they have. 

 

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45 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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As you alluded out, the Yankees also haven't had a season in which they weren't at least in the top-5 in payroll (and quite often, they have had the highest payroll in the Majors) in the last quarter of a Century.

As one Oriole fan said a long time ago when comparing the GM jobs of these 2 respective teams ....... You give me $200 Million-Plus year in and year out, and I'll put a winning, competitive team on the field year in and year out. You give me the restrictions that Andy MacPhail (and later Dan Duquette) have, and they'll hang me in effigy, tar and feather and put me in the stocks indefinitely  outside of OPACY.

 

So considering the surrounding circumstances, it's not all that overly impressive that the Yankees have been able to win a bare minimum of 85 - 88 wins year in and year out as they have. 

 

o

FTFY - I wanted to "clean it up"  ?

Not that you're bitter or anything  but I agree!  I need to remind my "Yankee friends" of these simple facts.

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1 hour ago, OFFNY said:

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As you alluded out, the Yankees also haven't had a season in which they weren't at least in the top-5 in payroll (and quite often, they have had the highest payroll in the Majors) in the last quarter of a Century.

As one Oriole fan said a long time ago when comparing the GM jobs of these 2 respective teams ....... You give me $200 Million-Plus year in and year out, and I'll put a winning, competitive team on the field year in and year out. You give me the restrictions that Andy MacPhail (and later Dan Duquette) have, and they'll hang me outside of OPACY.

 

So considering the surrounding circumstances, it's not all that overly impressive that the Yankees have been able to win a bare minimum of 85 - 88 wins year in and year out as they have. 

 

o

Yeah the fact they have one WS championship since 2001 is really underwhelming. I know the playoffs is luck partially but still.

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2 hours ago, OFFNY said:

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As you alluded out, the Yankees also haven't had a season in which they weren't at least in the top-5 in payroll (and quite often, they have had the highest payroll in the Majors) in the last quarter of a Century.

As one Oriole fan said a long time ago when comparing the GM jobs of these 2 respective teams ....... You give me $200 Million-Plus year in and year out, and I'll put a winning, competitive team on the field year in and year out. You give me the restrictions that Andy MacPhail (and later Dan Duquette) have, and they'll hang me outside of OPACY.

 

So considering the surrounding circumstances, it's not all that overly impressive that the Yankees have been able to win a bare minimum of 85 - 88 wins year in and year out as they have. 

 

o

 

 

1 hour ago, Palmoripken said:

 

Yeah, the fact they have one WS championship since 2001 is really underwhelming. I know the playoffs is luck partially, but still.

 

o

 

Even if they had won 3 or 4 World Championships since 2001, my larger point is that it isn't particularly difficult to put a contender on the field each and every year (which the Yankees have done) when there is no "risk-reward" factor in regard to your free agency/payroll decisions ........ for example, the Chris Davis contract has been looming over the Orioles' head like a black cloud for several years now, and (unless Davis completely turns it around and becomes the player that he once was) will continue to do so for at least 2 more years. And sinking a lot of money into a bad player isn't necessarily a singular/solitary problem, because it also affects other major decisions that need to be made. For example, there was no way in hell that the Orioles were going to keep Manny Machado by giving him a huge contract while the disastrous Chris Davis contract is/was also on their books. If the Orioles had not signed Davis and didn't have all of that money tied up in a player that had been a complete bust over the last 2 seasons, then keeping Machado (and/or Jonathan Schoop) via an expensive and long-term contract would at least have been a remote possibility. THAT is the price that mid-market and small-market teams pay when they make ONE major bad decision.  If the Yankees were in the same exact situation and had Davis on their payroll for the same amount of money, it would be at worst a minor inconvenience to them. For them, it doesn't matter if they spend a lot of money on free agents that either completely bust and/or don't live up to the expectations that they had of them when they gave them all of that money (Carl Pavano, A. J. Burnett, Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, etc.) Or for that matter, Derek Jeter in the last few years of his career. Jeter wasn't a free agent signing, but he was a player that was making boatloads of money at that time ($16 Million a year over the final 5 years of his career between 2010 and 2014), and he was nowhere near that type of money player in his last 2 years with the team. But for the Yankees and their short-term and long-term budgets, no matter ....... they can keep spending, with little or no repercussions.

 

So in my rat's ass of an opinion, teams like the Orioles, the Athletics, the Pirates, the D-Rays, etc have hard, tough decisions to make that cash-cows like the Yankees simply flick aside like an annoying fly/flea/gnat when they don't work out ........ which is not to say that the Orioles don't deserve criticism when they make bad decisions, but rather that I'm not particularly awed when teams like the Yankees remain in the conversation as a serious contender year in and year out like they do.

 

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52 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

 

 

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Even if they had won 3 or 4 World Championships since 2001, my larger point is that it isn't particularly difficult to put a contender on the field each and every year (which the Yankees have done) when there is no "risk-reward" factor in regard to your free agency/payroll decisions ........ for example, the Chris Davis contract has been looming over the Orioles' head like a black cloud for several years now, and (unless Davis completely turns it around and becomes the player that he once was) will continue to do so for at least 2 more years. And sinking a lot of money into a bad player isn't necessarily a singular/solitary problem, because it also affects other major decisions that need to be made. For example, there was no way in hell that the Orioles were going to keep Manny Machado by giving him a huge contract while the disastrous Chris Davis contract is/was also on their books. If the Orioles had not signed Davis and didn't have all of that money tied up in a player that had been a complete bust over the last 2 seasons, then keeping Machado (and/or Jonathan Schoop) via an expensive and long-term contract would at least have been a remote possibility. THAT is the price that mid-market and small-market teams pay when they make ONE major bad decision.  If the Yankees were in the same exact situation and had Davis on their payroll for the same amount of money, it would be at worst a minor inconvenience to them. For them, it doesn't matter if they spend a lot of money on free agents that either completely bust and/or don't live up to the expectations that they had of them when they gave them all of that money (Carl Pavano, A. J. Burnett, Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, etc.) Or for that matter, Derek Jeter in the last few years of his career. Jeter wasn't a free agent signing, but he was a player that was making boatloads of money at that time ($16 Million a year over the final 5 years of his career between 2010 and 2014), and he was nowhere near that type of money player in his last 2 years with the team. But for the Yankees and their short-term and long-term budgets, no matter ....... they can keep spending, with little or no repercussions.

 

So in my rat's ass of an opinion, teams like the Orioles, the Athletics, the Pirates, the D-Rays, etc have hard, tough decisions to make that cash-cows like the Yankees simply flick aside like an annoying fly/flea/gnat when they don't work out ........ which is not to say that the Orioles don't deserve criticism when they make bad decisions, but rather that I'm not particularly awed when teams like the Yankees remain in the conversation as a serious contender year in and year out like they do.

 

o

Agreed

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In addition to the Severino extension, they have now extended Hicks for 7/70.  He'll be 29 this season.

I believe he had agreed to a $6M contract this season, and he'll still get paid that.  But does this impact the luxury tax calculation, increasing his amount from six to ten?  I think it does.  Am I wrong?

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This one seems a bit dubious to me.   Granted the guy has been good the last two years, but when I see a guy who was mediocre at 25 I usually think he’s likely to be mediocre again by 31-32.    But I guess for the Yankees $70 mm over 7 years is pocket change.    

This certainly suggests the Yankees won’t be chasing any outfielders for several years, with Judge under control for four years and Stanton under control for ten.   

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On 2/19/2019 at 4:41 PM, backwardsk said:

I think the Yankees blew it this offseason missing out on Machado and Corbin.

I like the Paxton trade and the Severino extension, but I don't like how they approached the offseason in general.

They have a good young 3rd, and while he isn't Manny, he isn't 300 million either.

SS should be ok for them, if Didi returns healthy.

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Hicks has back issues, must be from hauling all that cash to the bank.

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Yankees center fielder Aaron Hicks underwent an MRI after feeling discomfort in his back, per Brendan Kuty of NJ.com. Doctors didn’t express concern upon viewing the results of the test, and Hicks said he’s confident he’s headed in the right direction. However, there’s also no clear timeline for when Hicks will return to game activity. He’s been out since last Friday, and Bryan Hoch of MLB.com tweets that it’ll be “several more days” before Hicks resumes batting practice. Hicks signed a seven-year, $70MM contract extension recently, forgoing a trip through free agency next offseason in the process.

 

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