Roy Firestone Series (vs. ANGELS, 7/28)

[Sessh]

1 minute ago, Philip said:

Hi all!

Got a question about defensive stats: I was looking up Santander at Fangraphs, and he has -1 DRS each in LF and in CF, +6 DRS in RF, where he has most of his innings, but his dWAR is -1.7.

His UZR/150 is minus 29 in LF, but +28 in RF, in 60 additional innings. The RF success should cancel out the LF problems, especially considering the additional innings. His arm strength is negative in each position, but I'm not sure why his dWAR is so bad.

He looks good out there, but stats exist for a reason. What is causing such a poor overall defensive showing?

..because these defensive metrics are flawed and unreliable. We need better ones.

[Sessh]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm expecting it to open back up.

Probably, but what choice do they have? They don't have many available pitchers.

[SteveA]

3 minutes ago, Philip said:

Hi all!

Got a question about defensive stats: I was looking up Santander at Fangraphs, and he has -1 DRS each in LF and in CF, +6 DRS in RF, where he has most of his innings, but his dWAR is -1.7.

His UZR/150 is minus 29 in LF, but +28 in RF, in 60 additional innings. The RF success should cancel out the LF problems, especially considering the additional innings. His arm strength is negative in each position, but I'm not sure why his dWAR is so bad.

He looks good out there, but stats exist for a reason. What is causing such a poor overall defensive showing?

The defensive stats are really noisy and you need a large sample size for them to have much meaning.   I've heard a full season might not even be enough.   So Santander is nowhere near close enough for those stats to have meaning yet.

[weams]

 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Sessh said:

Probably, but what choice do they have? They don't have many available pitchers.

I'd have pulled out the Kragle.

[scOtt]

Funny story about Boog.

 

[SteveA]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

I'm expecting it to open back up.

Probably in the clubhouse super-glueing it now.

[scOtt]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd have pulled out the Kragle.

Superglue. Liquid skin.

[scOtt]

4 minutes ago, Sessh said:

..because these defensive metrics are flawed and unreliable. We need better ones.

That's what I was going to say.

[SteveA]

Angels now have 2 HRs into that cheap RF corner that's kind of a poor man's Pesky Pole.  We hit one (Villar).

[Chavez Ravine]

So much for crafty Bundy.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, scOtt said:

Superglue. Liquid skin.

Haven't seen The Lego Movie?

[scOtt]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Haven't seen The Lego Movie?

I don't get out much.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, scOtt said:

I don't get out much.

Sorry if I just ruined the movie for you, that was kinda a big spoiler.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, scOtt said:

I don't get out much.

Also, you don't have to go out to watch movies anymore.