The Elias era so far

[Enjoy Terror]

24 minutes ago, weams said:

You come at the king, you best not miss.

I bought this last month

[weams]

2 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

I bought this last month

So I have this friend that produces some short movies. Several that have starred Michael K. And we are evidently both in that friend's phone. I've gotten some unusual texts over the years. 

[scOtt]

18 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

You what they say about that fine line between love and hate.

 

[Tony-OH]

22 hours ago, RZNJ said:

I am more inclined to worse vs. worst.  

Considering I'm typically speed reading and typing during the day at work when I have a chance to check it, be lucky I get anything right. If these are my worst mistakes, then I'm doing ok.

[backwardsk]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Considering I'm typically speed reading and typing during the day at work when I have a chance to check it, and be lucky I get anything right. If these are my worst mistakes, then I'm doing ok.

This post would have been gold if you ended it with “than I’m doing ok”

[Redskins Rick]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Considering I'm typically speed reading and typing during the day at work when I have a chance to check it, and be lucky I get anything right. If these are my worst mistakes, then I'm doing ok.

LOL, and I thought i was the only one doing the same thing......lol

[Roll Tide]

Roch was on 105.7

He said no prospects to start the season

He said to expect seeing more signings like Kairns and Straily. 
 

Hoping to get lucky and then trade them at the deadline for assets

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Roch was on 105.7

He said no prospects to start the season

He said to expect seeing more signings like Kairns and Straily. 
 

Hoping to get lucky and then trade them at the deadline for assets

He’s just opining, not reciting what Elias has told him, but I agree with his opinion, and think it’s the right strategy for 2020.     If you think about it, Akin, Kremer and Zimmermann are all likely to debut sometime in 2020.    Lowther, Baumann and Wells are all likely to debut in 2021.     Maybe Sedlock too.     It’s even possible that Hall makes a big jump next year and is ready by sometime in 2021.      So really we just want guys to eat up some innings until these guys arrive, and no commitments beyond a year.     Leave enough flexibility so that these guys can debut when they’re ready, but not rush them.    If that means we take a lot of lumps in 2020, so be it.    And by the way, I have no illusions that all the guys I mentioned will stay healthy, progress in a linear way and perform well at the major league level in their debut year or afterwards.    But hopefully some will, and we want room for that to happen.   

[Philip]

I would much rather disagree while understanding The logic, the purpose, the plan, the sequence, etc., than disagree because a move is stupid, illogical, a step backwards, etc.

So although I have some strenuous disagreements with this or that move, I understand where he’s coming from, and I am very much happier with this fellow than with his predecessor, and anybody who succeeds in getting rid of Brady is all right by me.

Edited December 6, 2019 by Philip
Clarification

[sportsfan8703]

14 hours ago, Roll Tide said:

Roch was on 105.7

He said no prospects to start the season

He said to expect seeing more signings like Kairns and Straily. 
 

Hoping to get lucky and then trade them at the deadline for assets

I’m assuming that means Mountcastle and guys lower, and doesn’t apply to a guy like Akin. 

Back to the OP, one thing we saw in year one was that we didn’t promote too many players in the minors. I think we were getting a baseline of data on them, and we needed to leave them at a level all year to make sure we had good data, and to eliminate variables. 

The full season club’s rotations are stacked and we’ll see lots of piggybacking to start out. Competition is a great thing and we’ll see what cream rises to the top. 

Gone are the years where we can say Norfolk is the “greatest milb team ever” because of AAAA guys there, now we’ll be able to see real dominance with loaded pitching staffs at all levels of the minors. We just don’t have the headliners/aces just yet. 

[Roll Tide]

13 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I’m assuming that means Mountcastle and guys lower, and doesn’t apply to a guy like Akin. 

Back to the OP, one thing we saw in year one was that we didn’t promote too many players in the minors. I think we were getting a baseline of data on them, and we needed to leave them at a level all year to make sure we had good data, and to eliminate variables. 

The full season club’s rotations are stacked and we’ll see lots of piggybacking to start out. Competition is a great thing and we’ll see what cream rises to the top. 

Gone are the years where we can say Norfolk is the “greatest milb team ever” because of AAAA guys there, now we’ll be able to see real dominance with loaded pitching staffs at all levels of the minors. We just don’t have the headliners/aces just yet. 

If there is no benefit to keeping a player in the minors I'd assume they are exempt.

Whatever has changed with the minors it's hard to ignore the positive results. 

[TheOtherRipken]

14 hours ago, Frobby said:

He’s just opining, not reciting what Elias has told him, but I agree with his opinion, and think it’s the right strategy for 2020.     If you think about it, Akin, Kremer and Zimmermann are all likely to debut sometime in 2020.    Lowther, Baumann and Wells are all likely to debut in 2021.     Maybe Sedlock too.     It’s even possible that Hall makes a big jump next year and is ready by sometime in 2021.      So really we just want guys to eat up some innings until these guys arrive, and no commitments beyond a year.     Leave enough flexibility so that these guys can debut when they’re ready, but not rush them.    If that means we take a lot of lumps in 2020, so be it.    And by the way, I have no illusions that all the guys I mentioned will stay healthy, progress in a linear way and perform well at the major league level in their debut year or afterwards.    But hopefully some will, and we want room for that to happen.   

I think Sedlock debuts this year for whatever team takes him in the Rule V draft

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, TheOtherRipken said:

I think Sedlock debuts this year for whatever team takes him in the Rule V draft

I will bet he’s not taken.    He’s neither major league ready nor high upside.    But we’ll see next week.  

[Scalious]

I've never agreed being slow about promoting/keeping guys down that are already on the 40 man. You are burning option years w/o knowing how much work they need to do to adjust to the majors. You end up putting yourself in a out of options crapshoot a few years down the line with talented, but unfinished players.

We know why they do it, but in a pure trying to build the best team I don't find it optimal in any way. It's a business thing, not building a better team thing. 

backlogging non 40 man players into the rule 5 pool will happen regardless in a re-build. Though slow playing doesn't really help either. (It can disguise players and keep them from being picked if they are still in A ball)

Edited December 6, 2019 by Scalious

[Jagwar]

I thought this was a very good article on the Astros rebuild. Guess we are still in Phase 1. 

Tanking... The Astro Way?

 

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Perverse as it seemed, this was all part of a “grand, unified strategy” where not “a single dollar” would be spent that might delay the creation of a team dynasty. When Luhnow joined the Astros in December 2011, he inherited a team that had never won a World Series, and whose farm system was ranked last in the leagues.