If only Elias hadn't traded the 11th best player in baseball (Bundy) for next to nothing

[DrungoHazewood]

4 minutes ago, Aglets said:

Surely at least a part of this could be that he isn't playing in OPACY anymore right?

Maybe a little, but over the last 3-4 years the Big A isn't that far behind OPACY in home run rates.  A couple years there were actually more hit there than here, including so far this year.

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Obviously the O's should have signed him to a 10 year contract.  Could have had a discount.

#1 trait you look for in a general manager is the ability to sign the players who'll be really good when it's not expected, and not sign the guys who'll fall off a cliff unexpectedly.  Even if that "skill" is about the same as a million monkeys with a computer eventually typing out Hamlet.

[Redskins Rick]

1 hour ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Maybe a little, but over the last 3-4 years the Big A isn't that far behind OPACY in home run rates.  A couple years there were actually more hit there than here, including so far this year.

But the Big A, dont play in the AL East, and Bundy would not be the first pitcher to do better with a change of scenery and movement out of the AL East.

 

[OFFNY]

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I'm not making a major point here, I'm just pointing out a coincidence/circumstance that happens to involve a player from a recent Orioles trade ........

Braves manager Brian Snitker tried to push Tommy Milone through 5 innings to qualify for the) W )in their 29-9 victory over the Marlins last night. Milone could only manage to go 3.33 frames, ceding 8 earned runs in the process.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL202009090.shtml

 

o

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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I'm not making a major point here, I'm just pointing out a coincidence/circumstance that happens to involve a player from a recent Orioles trade ........

Marlins manager Don Mattingly tried to push Tommy Milone through 5 innings to qualify for the) W )in their 29-9 victory over the Marlins last night. Milone could only manage to go 3.33 frames, ceding 8 earned runs in the process.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL202009090.shtml

 

o

Milone pitched for the Braves, who are managed by Brian Snitker.

[OFFNY]

9 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

o

 

I'm not making a major point here, I'm just pointing out a coincidence/circumstance that happens to involve a player from a recent Orioles trade ........

Braves manager Brian Snitker tried to push Tommy Milone through 5 innings to qualify for the) W )in their 29-9 victory over the Marlins last night. Milone could only manage to go 3.33 frames, ceding 8 earned runs in the process.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL202009090.shtml

 

o

 

 

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

Milone pitched for the Braves, who are managed by Brian Snitker.

 

o

 

I know.

That is what I posted in the first place, then I switched it to Mattingly and the Marlins, and then back to Snitker and the Braves again ....... I think I'll keep it this way, now.

 

o

[Oriole1940]

Sometimes in life, I have observed that there are things that do not work out good, for whatever reason, no matter how much time one puts in to studying, analyzing it, etc.  I am writing off this Bundy thing as one of those times.  However, over the very long haul,

things come closer to evening up, so if we have not used our evening up issue, we are due for something good to happen.  

[OFFNY]

34 minutes ago, Oriole1940 said:

 

Sometimes in life, I have observed that there are things that do not work out good, for whatever reason, no matter how much time one puts in to studying, analyzing it, etc ...... I am writing off this Bundy thing as one of those times. However, over the very long haul things come closer to evening up, so if we have not used our evening up issue, we are due for something good to happen.  

 

o

 

Baseball fans having a conversation, in March of 1912:

 

MIDWESTERN FAN #1: llllll. "How do the Cubs look this year?"

MIDWESTERN FAN #2:lllllll "It's been 3-plus years since they won it all. The Titanic will sink before the Cubs win another World Series."

 

o

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, OFFNY said:

o

 

I'm not making a major point here, I'm just pointing out a coincidence/circumstance that happens to involve a player from a recent Orioles trade ........

Braves manager Brian Snitker tried to push Tommy Milone through 5 innings to qualify for the) W )in their 29-9 victory over the Marlins last night. Milone could only manage to go 3.33 frames, ceding 8 earned runs in the process.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL202009090.shtml

 

o

Most runs allowed in a game where the pitcher got credit for a win since 1901:

                                                                                                         
Rk                 Player          Date  Tm Opp    Rslt     AppDec   IP  H  R ER BB SO HR UER Pit Str GSc
1            Eddie Rommel    1932-07-10 PHA CLE W 18-17 2-GF(18) W 17.0 29 14 13  9  7  0               1
2            Chick Fraser    1901-05-31 PHA CLE W 15-14     GS-  W  8.0 16 14  9  3  4  0           5   5
                                                                                                         
3                Joe Lake    1908-04-21 NYY WSH W 16-13       CG W  9.0 11    13  8  2                  0
4              Bill Phyle    1901-06-09 NYG CIN W 25-13       CG W  8.2 18 13  9  5  3  0           4   2
5             Bill Hoffer    1901-05-23 CLE WSH W 14-13       CG W  9.0 14 13 10  3  0  0           3  10
                                                                                                         
6            Gene Packard 1918-08-03(1) STL PHI W 16-12     GS-9 W  8.1 15 12 12  3  3  1           0   5
7             Jack Coombs    1911-05-12 PHA SLB W 17-13     GS-  W  7.2 16    12  2  7                  1
8           Roscoe Miller    1901-07-13 DET CLE W 19-12       CG W  9.0 10 12  8  3  3  0           4  27
9           Bill Phillips    1901-05-02 CIN STL W 16-12       CG W  9.0 17 12 10  1  1  0           2   9
10              Ted Lewis    1901-05-02 BOS PHA W 23-12       CG W  9.0 19 12 11  0  2  1           1   5
11             Sam Leever    1901-04-29 PIT STL W 14-12       CG W  9.0 16 12  5  1  6  0           7  26
                                                                                                         
12          Bill Beckmann    1941-05-04 PHA CHW W 17-11     GS-8 W  7.0 11 11  9  3  2  2           2  14
13           Thornton Lee    1938-09-28 CHW CLE W 14-11       CG W  9.0 16 11 11  6  3  2           0   8
14              Buck Ross    1938-08-16 PHA BOS W 14-11     GS-  W  8.2 13 11 10  3  5  2           1  18
15             Jack Knott    1936-09-02 SLB PHA W 13-11       CG W  9.0 12 11 11  7  2  1           0  14
16           Pete Donohue    1928-06-02 CIN BSN W 20-12     GS-7 W  6.1 14 11 11  0  0  3           0   1
17          Ernie Wingard    1925-05-31 SLB CHW W 15-11       CG W  9.0 19 11 10  1  0  0           1   6
18             Hub Perdue 1913-07-07(1) BSN PHI W 15-11       CG W  9.0 15 11 10  1  3  3           1  17
19          Rube Marquard    1913-05-14 NYG CHC W 14-11     GS-  W  6.0 11 11  8  3  7  1           3  16
20           Dummy Taylor    1906-07-12 NYG CIN W 16-11       CG W  9.0 14    11  3  1                  1
21          Fred Mitchell    1903-05-13 PHI PIT W 12-11     GS-  W  7.0 14    11  2  1                  0
                                                                                                         
22             Russ Ortiz    2000-05-21 SFG MIL W 16-10     GS-7 W  6.2  8 10 10  3  7  2   0 132  81  22
23              Vida Blue    1979-04-19 SFG SDP W 14-10     GS-8 W  8.0 11 10  9  4  4  1           1  22
24             Bob Friend 1954-05-02(2) PIT CHC W 18-10     GS-8 W  7.2 14 10 10  5  6  4           0  12
25            Johnny Sain    1951-05-26 BSN BRO W 12-10     GS-9 W  8.2 16 10  9  3  5  3   1 147  94  16

The Eddie Rommel game just looks like inexplicable nonsense to a modern eye.  He relieved Lew Krausse in the 2nd inning after Krausse had allowed three runs.  He then pitched 17 innings, allowing 29 hits and 14 runs, picking up the win in relief.  He faced 87 batters, and threw an estimated 224 pitches.  In relief.

Our old friend Russ Ortiz of the '06 Orioles makes the list from his time in San Francisco.  The only pitcher from the past 40 years.

[Sports Guy]

Imagine your team scoring 29 runs and you not even being able to qualify for the win.  
 

Milone was traded just in time.