T. Wells is the only reliever on this team capable of being a late inning reliever

[interloper]

Scott: Sorry, no. Your walk rate is trash bro. You look sweaty and nervous out there in big spots. When he pitches well it feels less like he dominated and more like he got lucky.

Fry: You fooled us long enough. Your velocity and command have reverted to prior levels. Decent reliever. Not at all who you want coming in with a tight lead in the 8th or 9th. 

Sulser: Decent middle relief guy. I like him, but it feels like he loses command in tense spots. Pitches to too much contact. 

Valdez: Fun while it lasted, but nah.

Harvey: Eh. Throws hard. Good to have in the 'pen. I dunno man. Not really buying it. Unreliable because he hasn't stayed healthy long enough for us to feel like we know what he's going to do. Homer-prone. 

Tate: I think we all agree he's got good stuff but is kind of random with how effective he is out there. Mostly a crapshoot. 

 

WELLS: BIG DOG LOVE TO EAT BABY. You can't tell me this guy doesn't immediately give you "late inning guy" vibes when he's out there. Kid is LEGIT. It was literally laughable how much more confident he appeared out there cleaning up Major League Reliever Tanner Scott's stank-ass mess - against the ASTROS for crying out loud... IN HOUSTON. BASES JACKED. ONE OUT. Come on. Scott and Fry should be embarrassed watching this AA pitcher put on his best mean-mug face and proceed to strike out two to get out of the inning. 

 

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. 

 

[Tony-OH]

Wells will be one of the Orioles starter's next year. He certainly is one of the only guys out there I have faith in that blowpen.

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Just now, Tony-OH said:

Wells will be one of the Orioles starter's next year. He certainly is one of the only guys out there I have faith in that blowpen.

For that reason I kind of hope he stays in the bullpen. No one else has decided to step up except the AA Rule 5 kid. It drives me nuts. I feel so embarrassed for the rest of these guys. In rebuilds like this it becomes very easy to see who is a nugget for a future good team. He's outclassed the rest of the bullpen and it's not even close IMO. 

My question about him starting is, does he have a third pitch. The 90 mph wipe out slider thing he has is pretty great to go along with the 95 mph fastball. Can he throw a change up consistently? Also, he just looks like he wants to be a reliever. But I certainly am curious about him starting. 

[Sports Guy]

5 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Wells will be one of the Orioles starter's next year. He certainly is one of the only guys out there I have faith in that blowpen.

I don't know about that but if he is, they should be starting him now.  Get a look at him in that role.

I doubt he makes the team as a starter next year if all he does is pitch out of relief this year.

[interloper]

BIG DOG LOVE TO EAT

 

[Moose Milligan]

I agree with the almighty SG.  They should be giving him starters innings now.  Other than Means, who else would you rather see starting games on the current roster than this guy?

And yes, yes, I know...Rule 5, Rule 5....

[Tony-OH]

30 minutes ago, interloper said:

For that reason I kind of hope he stays in the bullpen. No one else has decided to step up except the AA Rule 5 kid. It drives me nuts. I feel so embarrassed for the rest of these guys. In rebuilds like this it becomes very easy to see who is a nugget for a future good team. He's outclassed the rest of the bullpen and it's not even close IMO. 

My question about him starting is, does he have a third pitch. The 90 mph wipe out slider thing he has is pretty great to go along with the 95 mph fastball. Can he throw a change up consistently? Also, he just looks like he wants to be a reliever. But I certainly am curious about him starting. 

Take a look at his repertoire here https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/tyler-wells-669330?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

He's thrown 69 changeups and has flashed a curve (35 of them), something he used more in spring training before settling in on the slider in relief.  While he could end up a decent fastball slider reliever, looking at the options available, Wells should be given every opportunity to start next year and maybe even this year. His fastball gets a very solid 30.2 whiff and he can show three other pitches that he throws for strikes and can get whiffs on his slider (35.5%) and change (39.5%). 

The Orioles didn't draft him to be a reliever long term, they drafted him because he has starter potential. If he were in the system right now, I'd have him ranked above Bradish and maybe Bauman if Baumann can't get his act together. 

Basically he's the 3rd best starting pitcher under 27 in the organization.

[Sports Guy]

3 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Take a look at his repertoire here https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/tyler-wells-669330?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

He's thrown 69 changeups and has flashed a curve (35 of them), something he used more in spring training before settling in on the slider in relief.  While he could end up a decent fastball slider reliever, looking at the options available, Wells should be given every opportunity to start next year and maybe even this year. His fastball gets a very solid 30.2 whiff and he can show three other pitches that he throws for strikes and can get whiffs on his slider (35.5%) and change (39.5%). 

The Orioles didn't draft him to be a reliever long term, they drafted him because he has starter potential. If he were in the system right now, I'd have him ranked above Bradish and maybe Bauman if Baumann can't get his act together. 

Basically he's the 3rd best starting pitcher under 27 in the organization.

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion yet.  He only has one outing of 3 innings and none of his outings have gone longer than that.  You don't know what his stuff will be like going through a lineup 2-3 times.

[wildcard]

4 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Take a look at his repertoire here https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/tyler-wells-669330?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

He's thrown 69 changeups and has flashed a curve (35 of them), something he used more in spring training before settling in on the slider in relief.  While he could end up a decent fastball slider reliever, looking at the options available, Wells should be given every opportunity to start next year and maybe even this year. His fastball gets a very solid 30.2 whiff and he can show three other pitches that he throws for strikes and can get whiffs on his slider (35.5%) and change (39.5%). 

The Orioles didn't draft him to be a reliever long term, they drafted him because he has starter potential. If he were in the system right now, I'd have him ranked above Bradish and maybe Bauman if Baumann can't get his act together. 

Basically he's the 3rd best starting pitcher under 27 in the organization.

And the 2nd best that is healthy.

Not sure I would do more than spot starts this year to limit his innings.    This is the most he has pitched since his TJ surgery.    I'd take it slow. Protect him.  Have him ready for ST next season.  He is too valuable to over use.

[Hazmat]

9 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Take a look at his repertoire here https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/tyler-wells-669330?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

He's thrown 69 changeups and has flashed a curve (35 of them), something he used more in spring training before settling in on the slider in relief.  While he could end up a decent fastball slider reliever, looking at the options available, Wells should be given every opportunity to start next year and maybe even this year. His fastball gets a very solid 30.2 whiff and he can show three other pitches that he throws for strikes and can get whiffs on his slider (35.5%) and change (39.5%). 

The Orioles didn't draft him to be a reliever long term, they drafted him because he has starter potential. If he were in the system right now, I'd have him ranked above Bradish and maybe Bauman if Baumann can't get his act together. 

Basically he's the 3rd best starting pitcher under 27 in the organization.

If that's the case, sign me up for 2 more Rule 5 picks next season.  

[Tony-OH]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion yet.  He only has one outing of 3 innings and none of his outings have gone longer than that.  You don't know what his stuff will be like going through a lineup 2-3 times.

True, I'm just saying repertoire and command wise I like him better than Bradish. As you pointed out, I'd probably start him in the second half and see what he looks like between after 50 pitches, then 75, then up to a 100 pitches to see if his stuff holds up. 

So far they have really babied him rarely letting him go over 25 pitches (9 times) though he has had success in the small sample size between 25-50 pitches. From what I've seen, it's time to take off the kid gloves and let's see what they have. He's 26-years old. 

[Tony-OH]

6 minutes ago, wildcard said:

And the 2nd best that is healthy.

Not sure I would do more than spot starts this year to limit his innings.    This is the most he has pitched since his TJ surgery.    I'd take it slow. Protect him.  Have him ready for ST next season.  He is too valuable to over use.

That's a good point. Saying that, he's shown he's healthy and he's over two years removed from TJ surgery. I'd start stretching him out now.

[Tony-OH]

If you want to see how much Wells has changed since his TJ surgery, look no further than his 2080 scouting report from 2018. 

https://2080baseball.com/reports/tyler-wells/

 

 

[wildcard]

14 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

That's a good point. Saying that, he's shown he's healthy and he's over two years removed from TJ surgery. I'd start stretching him out now.

Its a judgement call.   There is nothing to  be gained by pushing him this season IMO.  I would be very carefully with him.  

They will put him on a program this off season to build him up.   He will be stretched out next spring as a starter.   I agree with your assessment of his stuff.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]