Erbe leaves with injury (UPDATED)

[BaysoxFan39]

Brandon had given up 2 runs on 5 hits in 2 plus innings to the worst hitting team in the Eastern League. He was not having a good game. I hope it is just a sprain but of course the key to delivery is the legs so we will see how it goes.

[allstar1579]

Brandon had given up 2 runs on 5 hits in 2 plus innings to the worst hitting team in the Eastern League. He was not having a good game. I hope it is just a sprain but of course the key to delivery is the legs so we will see how it goes.

The hits he was giving up were all because of the fastball. He was having a little trouble locating it, and when it's straight, 90mph and not where you are trying to put it, they are going to get some hits. I wouldn't put too much stock into this, like I've said, I'll keep giving updates, but I'm not going to do a full write up on him until I've given him a chance to really get back into the swing of things and shake the rust off you know?

[QBsILLEST1]

Something is wrong with Erbz, they should shut him down until further notice.

[allstar1579]

Something is wrong with Erbz, they should shut him down until further notice.

I'm still trying to get to the bottom of things, a couple people I have talked to say they've never seen Erbe throw too hard, so if he wasn't throwing as hard as he was hyped to be throwing then this is just normal stuff.

I did find out that in 08 when he got rid of that hitch in his delievery it cost him a couple mph on his fastball. So if he was thought to be throwing around 94, then he would be throwing around 91-92 now, which would be a little more in line with what I saw yesterday.

I'm still hoping to get a chance to ask him, but I didn't want to bother him too much last night after he just tweaked his ankle, I'm sure he was frustrated enough.

[Mackus]

Something is wrong with Erbz, they should shut him down until further notice.

Dude he twisted his ankle.

[Frobby]

Per BowieMike, this doesn't appear serious. He may make his next start, or he may miss one start depending how quickly he recovers.

[allstar1579]

Dude he twisted his ankle.

I think he's talking about the lack of velocity, it's been the on-going discussion a couple of us have been having lately.

The ankle thing didn't look too bad, I was right behind the plate when it happened, and he could put his weight on it when they were checking him out, just had a bit of a limp. I'll check on him again tonight when I go see Hernandez.

[Frobby]

I think he's talking about the lack of velocity, it's been the on-going discussion a couple of us have been having lately.

Lack of velocity when? Yesterday? In Aberdeen? Earlier this year in Bowie? Last year in Frederick?

Let me just say, I don't trust the Bowie radar gun as far as I can throw it. I read too many game reports where that gun is all over the map.

[Arthur_Bryant]

Erbe and Spoone should both be awarded the Hayden Penn Trophy for 2009

Beating up on three once-and-future O's hopefuls in a single one-line post.

That's impressive!

[allstar1579]

Lack of velocity when? Yesterday? In Aberdeen? Earlier this year in Bowie? Last year in Frederick?

Let me just say, I don't trust the Bowie radar gun as far as I can throw it. I read too many game reports where that gun is all over the map.

Yesterday. I'm still trying to nail down what he has thrown in different places, I'm going to try to ask him himself, but it seems that the biggest chunk of velocity dip came when he changed his delivery last year. I don't use the Bowie gun, it is horrible, not to mention it's out for repair. That is on the real guns, 3 different ones for the record.

[Who's On 1st]

I asked about the Baysox radar gun yesterday and was told it should be back today!

[allstar1579]

After some more research, and help from our wonderful writers here, it looks like even after the adjustments Erbe made last year, he was sitting 92-94. The other night he was sitting 88-90 so he's a couple mph off, but that just might be from the shoulder fatigue and just coming back.

I'll keep my eye on it and update after a few more starts.

[QBsILLEST1]

After some more research, and help from our wonderful writers here, it looks like even after the adjustments Erbe made last year, he was sitting 92-94. The other night he was sitting 88-90 so he's a couple mph off, but that just might be from the shoulder fatigue and just coming back.

I'll keep my eye on it and update after a few more starts.

Its tough to get rid of dead arm sometimes, I always thought the only remedy was not throwing for a while. Its kinda strange IMO that they would continue to send him out there with that much less velocity and after him having this shoulder fatigue.....I wonder if the trainers know somethign that we dont(just speculating, I cant think of a scenario that theyd know something, just trying to put pieces together)

[allstar1579]

Its tough to get rid of dead arm sometimes, I always thought the only remedy was not throwing for a while. Its kinda strange IMO that they would continue to send him out there with that much less velocity and after him having this shoulder fatigue.....I wonder if the trainers know somethign that we dont(just speculating, I cant think of a scenario that theyd know something, just trying to put pieces together)

I didn't get the impression when I saw him that anything was really wrong (and I'm good at reading people). So I'll just go see him a couple more times and we can draw conclusions later. He's probably just building up the arm strength again. He seemed like he was in a good mood yesterday, so I'd think if something was really off, he'd be showing it.

[QBsILLEST1]

After reading what Tony wrote in the 2008 top 30 list, his drop in velo lines up right along with what he said when Erbe lost velo last year. It said that he sat between 88-92. Its strange for Erbe to be so much all over the map. Especialkly because his arm strength was back to the norm at first this year when he posted a .90 ERA in the beginning....