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Just curious, why not target someone this year like Trevor Story. We might have to overpay in both years and cost, but he seems like a guy who has had relatively stable numbers and strong defense and won't be had at a Correa/Seager type cost. MLBTR predicts 6/$126. Even if we went 7/$150, we bump our payroll in the right direction, hedge our bets with Henderson/Mayo/Westburg hitting, even 2 of 3, and if not can use them as trade bait. And then we also have Story for that elusive 6-7 year window of when our core is around through the cheap years.

Does it depend how he profiles defensively? If he's 2B or 3B, that's a harder sell as #1, very easy sell if he can stick at SS. I like Dru Jones for his profile of his dad pretty much, maybe with more speed.

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I have to imagine that this means Tony believes he cannot stick at SS, which makes his bat come closer to average, but potentially his glove tick up a small amount.

Debatable. I've always agreed with your sentiment, but my 6 year old son likes and enjoys baseball at his age. They're taught to be hitters and put the ball in play. As head coach, I gave homework assignments to watch some of the Champ Series that was on after practice. We watched, and his takeaway was that the pitcher was throwing a lot of pitches that the hitters didn't swing at. Again, I'm not saying that this isn't advantageous for both the hitter and the pitcher, as we all know Ks and HRs are up, but not having the ball in play and a lot of activity makes the game boring for the youth.

So let's back up. Is he worth an $8mil or 2/$15 type of deal if we could get quality for Mullins and let Hays play CF?

At least at SS. I think Elias is aware that he has several SS prospects that he needs to have pan out to support the Orioles rise. If they all pan out, then you also have a 3B, and maybe a 2B. SP and RP on the other hand....

That's an intruiging one. What about Eddie Rosario as well? He made $8 mil on a 1 year deal. Not sure he can play center, but Hays probably can, and then we could trade Mullins for a decent haul on the pitching side. Or Mancini/Santander.

Maybe I'm missing it because I don't follow other teams prospects, but what do you see in Turang other than a top pick and he's still young? He's got a mediocre OPS, poor SB%, and yes he's a MIF at AA. I figured many would say the other way around on Mondesi vs. Marte. O's say no on Mondesi, yes to Marte.

Hays for Mondesi or Ketel Marte. Who bites?

Because we need to take some risks to acquire talent to maximize our window. We can't buy a lot of FA in 2023. I'm sure KC is thinking the same way, but potentially have a bad taste with the health concerns. Same concept as @Sports Guy has with Champan and Glasnow. Good thoughts, acquire them if the price makes sense. Spend some of your capital now to maximize 2023-2026.

Really? The guy is making 2.5 mil right now, and the GM says he likes him, but can't trust him. Sounds like lip service. Assume he makes something like $6 mil and $9 mil in arb 2 and 3. Seems like a potential non-tender. Seems like it might not even take a top 10 prospect, and if healthy he's way better than anything we've got. And if he hits, then we've got ourselves a possible extension candidate next year.

While we're targeting guys that may be available, one I thought of was Adalberto Mondesi. He is playing in his first arb eligible season, so he has 2 more before he's a UFA. He missed a significant amount of the season, but is one of the more polarizing players in terms of performance when he's on the field. What would it take and do we think he'd actually be available?

I'm simply stating that the old school catchers are what is visible to the eyes of the game. The pitch framing and WAR/win probability/strikes gained is done by computer after the game. The two players still exist.

Which is done in turn by the catcher or someone in the dugout and the catcher relays.

I think there's differences to "catcher defense" concept: 1. The older school concept, which is related to throwing, blocking balls in the dirt, positioning his teammates correctly, calling pitches 2. The newer school, which is related to pitch framing, getting additional strikes and therefore additional outs, adding to team win percentage, etc. Not saying either Sisco or Severino is good at it, but the first guy doesn't count as much for WAR as the second guy

What about buying out 2-3 years of free agency now (assuming you can assess how he'll play against big league pitching). Take him out to age 32-33 but not out to age 36 like a next deal likely would.

It's an outfield camp, hence the word "mini" and not full camp See this thread

I'm in this camp. Guys who have been good, but are way down right now and may accept a minor league deal. I like Archer, Folty, Jimmy Nelson, Ray

Anyone tracking from Roch? Looks like Carter Baumler signed for 1.5 mil. Roch Signing tracking

Anyone care to share some of this content for those of us who don’t have access?

Any thoughts on what to do with the ball? Or who here might?

This is slightly off topic, but watching this game reminded me. My dad and I (well him) caught Brady's home run during 2130. We still have it. It's probably worth more to him than me, but I don't know what to do with it. Anyone have thoughts? Or maybe @Tony-OH or @weams or someone else may know how to get in contact with Brady.

Pretty good. I did the same thing under my own evaluation on my tear #2. Said, didn't hurt as bad as last time, so two weeks rest then play basketball again. I played another game, it was ugly and painful, and I couldn't even get 2 inches off the ground for a layup. Decided at that point that it probably was my ACL. Stubborn.

Yup, I'll second that. It's instant pain. Then feels like you re-tear it every time you make that same move. Torn both mine, both playing basketball, and then opted to hold off on surgery to play baseball with a brace on. The push moves you make at 3rd are really tough on a torn ACL.