What Oriole am I

[Pedro Cerrano]

Btw, I sure don't miss BTerp!

[Mondo Trasho]

At least he's consistent.

Wieters is one of the best catchers in baseball. He's not a middle of the lineup hitter that his minor league stats suggesting he could become, but he's a big reason we made the playoffs this year. He's normally a great game caller (obviously he's had his bad moments ) and you just don't run on him, you run off a slow to the plate pitcher. To each is own though. Some people will never be happy unless a player turns into the best player ever at their position.

Exactly. Wieters is a great player (I might argue underrated by some). Most of the disappointment probably stems from his unfortunate characterization as "Joe Mauer with Power". He's not that, and might not ever be that. But that doesn't mean he isn't valuable or that he's a "bust".

[Pedro Cerrano]

Exactly. Wieters is a great player (I might argue underrated by some). Most of the disappointment probably stems from his unfortunate characterization as "Joe Mauer with Power". He's not that, and might not ever be that. But that doesn't mean he isn't valuable or that he's a "bust".

Come on. He's a GREAT player? On what planet?

[Mondo Trasho]

Come on. He's a GREAT player? On what planet?

He's a top 5 catcher. I'd argue a top 3 catcher. He's not a "great hitter" but he's a great player.

[SteveO]

Calling him the biggest bust in franchise history is hardly a dumb comment when you consider all the factors, which I'm sure you didn't bother to do.

No really....it is that stupid lol

Billy Rowell was a bust.... Brandon Snyder was a bust....Matt Hobgood is well on his way to being a bust

Your two time all-star catcher and gold glover is not a bust just because he is not as good as YOU think he should be.

Has Weiters been the walking on water messiah he was made out to be...no... but he has been very good. Get a grip and think before you speak

[Pedro Cerrano]

He's a top 5 catcher. I'd argue a top 3 catcher. He's not a "great hitter" but he's a great player.

Since the term "great" and, by extension, defining what is "great" is generally subjective I guess we'll just have different personal thresholds as to what makes a player "great."

[Mondo Trasho]

Since the term "great" and, by extension, defining what is "great" is generally subjective I guess we'll just have different personal thresholds as to what makes a player "great."

Ah well let's see. I'd say Jered Weaver is a "great" pitcher. Is he "the best"? No, I'd suspect not. But he's still great.

Same as Wieters. How many catchers are better than he is? Not too many.

[Orioles4Life21]

Matt Wieters is a great catcher and is nowhere near a bust.

[SteveO]

Since the term "great" and, by extension, defining what is "great" is generally subjective I guess we'll just have different personal thresholds as to what makes a player "great."

So now you have gone from calling him a "BUST" ....your words not mine... to babbling about the definition of great. Kinda says everything that needs to be said about your original post..

[Pedro Cerrano]

So now you have gone from calling him a "BUST" ....your words not mine... to babbling about the definition of great. Kinda says everything that needs to be said about your original post..

Sorry if this is above your level of intellect.

[MarylandAaron]

He's one of the more valuable players in the game when you factor in position and defense. I can see Pedro's point though - he was supposed to be an elite hitter and hasn't lived up to those expectations. It has indeed been very frustrating watching him hit at times.

[Pedro Cerrano]

So now you have gone from calling him a "BUST" ....your words not mine... to babbling about the definition of great. Kinda says everything that needs to be said about your original post..

I should mention that my original post in this thread was composed over a year ago. You can read, right?

[Pedro Cerrano]

He's one of the more valuable players in the game when you factor in position and defense. I can see Pedro's point though - he was supposed to be an elite hitter and hasn't lived up to those expectations. It has indeed been very frustrating watching him hit at times.

Wow, someone actually put the pitchfork down and gets it. Thank you.

[Pedro Cerrano]

BTW, I'd like to thank Mr. Soprano for bumping this thread for no real reason. Now I'm fighting battles in two separate threads. All because I dared to call out our precious catcher for what he is -- A BUST OFFENSIVELY!

[Fla_O'sfan]

I ground out to second base....a lot.

What Oriole am I?:angryfire:

I think I'm ready to guess. Is it Jim Thome?