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That's awesome. Much respect.

Although, UNC was more like that in the 80s I bet.

A lot of this talk about Duke, coming from MD fans, is from the "new fan" who probably doesn't know the history as much.

As you say, a lot of the older MD fans hate UNC, just like many of the newer fans hate Duke.

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More than anything else, the reason people hate Duke is the sense of entitlement that program and it's fans have towards everybody else in the ACC. I think most of us respect the wins, and sure, with winning comes hate but it's the sticking their nose up at everybody else that really gets our goats. I'll tell you that I have nowhere near the distain for UNC that I have for Duke even though they are in the same conference and are just, if not more, successful than Duke.

IN a lot of ways for me:

UNC= Yankees- Don't like them but respect them and their history. Truly the elite program/franchise in their respective sports. Their fans are comfortable and understanding of their legacy. There isn't the need to tell everybody how good they are and constantly look down on others. Their royalty is very secure.

Duke= Red Sox- Relatively speaking the Johnny come Lately's in their respective sports. Red Sox have been consistently great for a decade. Duke has only been great consistently during the K era. Neither have nowhere near the overall legacy of the Yankees/Heels. Because of that I think their fans are more apt to look down on those below them because while they're great they're still not numero uno. Plus, they also have to know that one day in the future they could be like all of those they look down on now. As much as they want to think and hope they have staying power they know deep down they aren't immune from again returning to Yeoman status.

You're totally right about this. UNC knows that they have some of the best history of any program in the nation and feel secure about it. That's why they aren't the one's complaining about everyone else's fans from on high. I'm so damn tired of the Duke snobbery. I know a few people that go to Duke who admit that, though the line outside Cameron is clearly the longest for the UNC game, the Maryland line is easily the 2nd longest. They can pretend that we're not rivals for a long as they want but the fact is that we've played them consistently better than anyone other than UNC and have had some EPIC games.

Plus, I've been to Cameron. Sorry, but they're overrated. Great fans, yes. The best in the nation? No. Plus, they're nerdy as hell. The cheer sheets are stupid and so are most of the cheers. Their cheerleaders and co-eds are terrible. It's in the middle of a crappy town in the middle of North Carolina. They isolate the freshmen from the rest of the campus. The gray stone everywhere is depressing as hell. So yeah. Duke sucks.

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You're totally right about this. UNC knows that they have some of the best history of any program in the nation and feel secure about it. That's why they aren't the one's complaining about everyone else's fans from on high. I'm so damn tired of the Duke snobbery. I know a few people that go to Duke who admit that, though the line outside Cameron is clearly the longest for the UNC game, the Maryland line is easily the 2nd longest. They can pretend that we're not rivals for a long as they want but the fact is that we've played them consistently better than anyone other than UNC and have had some EPIC games. Plus, I've been to Cameron. Sorry, but they're overrated. Great fans, yes. The best in the nation? No. Plus, they're nerdy as hell. The cheer sheets are stupid and so are most of the cheers. Their cheerleaders and co-eds are terrible. It's in the middle of a crappy town in the middle of North Carolina. They isolate the freshmen from the rest of the campus. The gray stone everywhere is depressing as hell. So yeah. Duke sucks.

They only say that to get under the skin of the MD fans...and it works.

Its actually pretty funny.

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Yeah because Duke fans are elitist and unbearably annoying...

Right but the MD fans and the cussing, the fires, the throwing of stuff at players moms, the whining, etc...none of that is annoying?

Let's face it, all fan bases are pretty annoying.

To be honest, I likely couldn't stand most of the kids who go to Duke. They wouldn't be people I would be friends with for many of things people complain about when it comes to Duke fans. OTOH, I have been around enough MD fans to know that a lot of them are giant douche bags too. They are everywhere, no matter the school.

But you only become elitist because your team, program or whatever is that good. If you get tired of hearing them say, we are that good, then you go beat them.

MD did a good job of that from around 1998-2006...hell, they were the only team doing that on any kind of a consistent basis.

Put it this way, if MD was winning ACC titles all the time, getting to final 4s consistently and winning 4 titles in 20 years, you would be elitist too and denying that is nothing more than a straight up lie.

Look at how we all reacted when we knocked the Red Sox out of the playoffs. We loved it just hear their fans cry. For one day, we could say, we are better than you. That was elitist on some level and that was just for one game...Think about if we made the Red Sox and Yankees our b***h for the next 5-10 years and were winning titles...you don't think O's fans would be reveling in that?

But I had plenty of interactions with MD fans that said the Duke program would never get back to where it was(when they were struggling in the tourney in the mid 2000s) and people talking all sorts of smack about them...so, when you do that and the program comes right back and make your team irrelevant, then the smack talk is coming right back at you.

So, you either shut your mouth to begin with or be prepared to have it brought right back to you.

In a lot of ways, I dislike MD more than UNC...but it has nothing to do with the team...Hell, I defended guys like Vazquez and Gary more than most of the MD fans on this board. But the fans of the Terps are just awful on so many levels. Not all of you. There are a lot of people on this board that are a lot of fun to go back and forth with about MD..but there is enough of the dbags that you just can't wait to rub their faces in it.

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Except Steeler fans recognize that the Ravens are their rivals, so this is a pretty pointless statement.

Some do, just like some Duke fans recognize MD as one of their 2 rivals.

Pretty similar situations where the Ravens and MD are great rivals of them when they're good, but ultimately are not the true, long-term rivals that the Browns and UNC are.

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Some do, just like some Duke fans recognize MD as one of their 2 rivals.

Pretty similar situations where the Ravens and MD are great rivals of them when they're good, but ultimately are not the true, long-term rivals that the Browns and UNC are.

Most Steelers fans don't view the Browns as their rivals anymore, at least not on the level of the Ravens or even the Pats.

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I'm so damn tired of the Duke snobbery. I know a few people that go to Duke who admit that, though the line outside Cameron is clearly the longest for the UNC game, the Maryland line is easily the 2nd longest. They can pretend that we're not rivals for a long as they want but the fact is that we've played them consistently better than anyone other than UNC and have had some EPIC games.

Yes, but those things come and go. When I was growing up, Duke stunk. They literally finished dead last in the ACC four years in a row, from 1974-77, going 9-39 in regular league play and losing in the first round of the ACC tourney each year. Believe me when I say that Maryland fans (and I was one, growing up, and they are still my second-favorite ACC team) didn't give Duke a second thought. On the other hand, Maryland had a fierce rivalry with N.C. State, even more than with UNC for a while.

The Duke-UNC rivalry is just a totally different breed, because the two schools are so close together. It doesn't matter if Duke or UNC is in a down period, the fans are going to get up for those games.

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BTW, it's kind of silly for a bandwagon Duke fan living in MD and posting on a MD forum to take comments directed at Duke or his fandom of them so personally to the point where you think less of MD's fans and "can't wait to rub their faces in it"

If a bandwagon fan of the Yankees, Red Sox, or Steelers was living in this state and posting on this board and being annoyingly vocal about their support of said team, I'd expect them to have a lot of negative stuff said toward them as well. That's just the way sports fandom works and is not a poor reflection on the fanbase of the O's, Ravens, or Terps in this case.

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BTW, it's kind of silly for a bandwagon Duke fan living in MD and posting on a MD forum to take comments directed at Duke or his fandom of them so personally to the point where you think less of MD's fans and "can't wait to rub their faces in it"

If a bandwagon fan of the Yankees, Red Sox, or Steelers was living in this state and posting on this board and being annoyingly vocal about their support of said team, I'd expect them to have a lot of negative stuff said toward them as well. That's just the way sports fandom works and is not a poor reflection on the fanbase of the O's, Ravens, or Terps in this case.

Isn't there a tree out there for to hug or a panda to save?

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BTW, it's kind of silly for a bandwagon Duke fan living in MD and posting on a MD forum to take comments directed at Duke or his fandom of them so personally to the point where you think less of MD's fans and "can't wait to rub their faces in it"

If a bandwagon fan of the Yankees, Red Sox, or Steelers was living in this state and posting on this board and being annoyingly vocal about their support of said team, I'd expect them to have a lot of negative stuff said toward them as well. That's just the way sports fandom works and is not a poor reflection on the fanbase of the O's, Ravens, or Terps in this case.

THere was a poster ont his board named Steel Curtain who claimed to be an Orioles fan but only posted in the NFL section and NHL section about the Steelers and Penguins mostly -- I checked once and he had very few Orioles posts. He was met with a ton of hostility and rightly so.

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