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It amazing to me what a few games against the White Sox will do to peoples confidence. Forget that the O's just lost 2 out of 3 to Boston, the Yankees and Indians. Just amazing.

http://www.masnsports.com/index_medialounge.php?show_id=1885780&p=

At the 1.45 to go mark.

I would love the O's to go 18-5. That would be fantastic. But what that they have done would make me believe that prediction? They have been a .500 team for a long while and they have not played well against contenders lately.

Good Luck with that Jim. I'll be rooting for you and the O's.

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Hey, it's only 17-5 now, since that segment was before yesterday's game.

God bless Jim Palmer, he is pretty objective when he announces the game, but he's an Orioles homer at heart.

Actually I thought the segment was extremely interesting. For those who didn't take the time to watch it, here are a few highlights:

- They showed that Feldman uses his cutter more than any other pitch although hitters hit .306 off it and are under .200 against his other pitches. Palmer said (and Dempsey agreed) that pitchers use the cutter as a "crutch" to avoid working on their fastball command, and gave Tommy Hunter as an example of a pitcher who used it too much as a starter and has gotten away from using it so much now that he's in the bullpen. So, in other words, Palmer undoubtedly agrees with the Orioles' telling Bundy to scrap the cutter during his development last year. Parenthetically, Feldman went on to throw 43 cutters last night, to very good effect.

- Hunter tried to get Palmer to buy into the idea that getting the starters an extra day of rest had been a good idea, and Palmer bucked him, pointing out that Chen has lacked command in his last two outings after pitching on extra rest. Palmer said that he always felt that the more often he pitched, the better command he had.

- Dempsey then tried to blame Palmer for the advent of the five-man rotation, saying that when he got older and couldn't pitch as much, the Orioles went to five-man rotation "to give you an extra day off" and the rest of baseball followed suit. Palmer responded, "when I got older, I'm pretty sure the Orioles told me I could have the rest of my life off." For anyone who saw the press conference Palmer gave right after the O's released him, you know that still stings him 29 years later. By the way, I'm relatively sure that the O's were one of the last teams to go to a five-man rotation, not one of the first as Dempsey suggested.

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He didnt go"out on a limb"...he went out on a ledge.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY we go even close to 18-5. Not unless they changed the schedule.Hey,

I LOVE that we have played well in the last two nights. The White Sox have lost 8 in a row. We don't see

Sale. We can get fat on the White Sox. Its the Yankees; Toronto (away), Boston (away), Tampa (away)

then Toronto and Boston at home.

We are a poor road team this year. And these game will ALL matter to just about everyone except

Toronto(and they would LOVE to beat us).

Can they do it? I guess they could.

Will they?

NO WAY.

In that case, it's just about a lock!

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Let's see if we can win more than five in a row once this season.
Palmer thinks we are capable of another 2012-like run. I disagree.
In 2012, we had 9 winning streaks of 4 games or more compared to 3 in 2013. Winning "streaks" of two or three games, 14 in 2012, 17 in 2013 with 3+ weeks to go. In short, when we went on a run in 2012, there were more of them, and they lasted longer.

The Orioles had one 6 game losing streak in 2012 (May 26-Jun 1), and no other losing streak longer than 3 games. In 2013, there have been 9 losing streaks of 4 games or more, including a six game losing streak (May 14-20).

If I were to compare the years to rollercoasters, the 2012 variety was a lot more exciting with longer climbs to the top and shorter drops. By contrast, 2013 is more of a kiddie ride, with small highs and lows, over, and over, and over again.

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Palmer thinks we are capable of another 2012-like run. I disagree.

Everything you say is correct. There is no reason to expect the Orioles to go on a big run now. But, it's a crazy game, so we'll keep watching and hoping.

I don't think we need to go 18-5 (now 17-5) to make the playoffs. It kind of depends who we beat. If we take 3 of 4 from NY and 3 of 4 from Tampa, I think 15-7 the rest of the way would be likely to be enough. But if we lose the series to those teams, forget it.

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He didnt go"out on a limb"...he went out on a ledge.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY we go even close to 18-5. Not unless they changed the schedule.Hey,

I LOVE that we have played well in the last two nights. The White Sox have lost 8 in a row. We don't see

Sale. We can get fat on the White Sox. Its the Yankees; Toronto (away), Boston (away), Tampa (away)

then Toronto and Boston at home.

We are a poor road team this year. And these game will ALL matter to just about everyone except

Toronto(and they would LOVE to beat us).

Can they do it? I guess they could.

Will they?

NO WAY.

You are such a pessimist. Why not try to have a little faith in the team? I don't

know if they will do that are not. But I won't say they can't. Believe in the team

man.

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Palmer thinks we are capable of another 2012-like run. I disagree.

I disagree, too. 18-9 and 19-9 in August and September of 2012. We were winning practically every series we played. Far from the case this year.

This season seems like a reversal of last year. Last year we limped along at .500 and caught fire...this year we started off hot and are limping to the end. We're like a wounded Gazelle on the Serengeti who has been injured and is hobbling along hoping the cheetah doesn't see us.

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Either opinion could be correct. All the contending teams have enough talent to win. This is like the final push of a marathon. Break all the mirrors. Whatever has happened up to this point no longer matters. Last year doesn't matter. Yesterday doesn't matter. The previous inning doesn't matter. In a marathon, it's one foot in front of the other. Baseball equivalent: Pitch. By. Pitch.

Talent + Stamina + Focus = Playoffs

Go O's!

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There are 22 games to play. Here are our best 22-game streaks of the year:

15-7 April 18 - May 10

14-8 May 28 - June 21

14-8 June 28 - July 22

To play better than that in the final 22 games of the season would truly be epic. But Palmer knows that things like that can happen. His 1974 Orioles were 63-65, then finished the season on a 28-6 roll that nobody could have seen coming. 15 of those wins were by one run (against three one-run losses).

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That has more to do with Tampa going 3-10 than anything else.

Doesn't matter how we got there. Just matters what we do from here. Tampa left the door open when they could have slammed it shut. In that same period, the Yankees have gone 7-6, the Indians have gone 6-7 and we've gone 6-7. Nobody's exactly stepping up among that group. But somebody probably will.

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