Ubaldo Jiminez 3/39 or Ervin Santana 4/55

[weams]

Who'd you rather?

[maybenxtyr]

I think Santana has been more consistent, so I would prefer him. The monies are fairly equal.

[clapdiddy]

I picked Santana, but would not have either at those prices.

Santana at least throws the ball over the plate.

[Camden_yardbird]

Santana got a deal just behind Ubaldo's which shows how much you have to pay for enigmatic, flashes of brilliance, inconsistent pitchers.

It also highlights why the orioles have been hesitant to part with any of their top three pitchers or their cheap starting pitching. Fact is, Masterson got $9 million plus for a year and was a worse pitcher than Tillman, Chen or Gonzalez last year whom the Orioles are paying less than $9 million.

Hitting may have been a first priority for many teams this winter, but the cheap pitcher is definitely still the most valuable commodity in baseball.

[Tx Oriole]

Who'd you rather?

I still take Jimenez. I still believe he will get better. IMO

[Rene88]

I picked Santana, but would not have either at those prices.

Santana at least throws the ball over the plate.[/quote]

Exactly. He is downright filthy at times too. Santana has always been the better of the two.

Dumb question-did he cost a pick?

[Rene88]

I still take Jimenez. I still believe he will get better. IMO

He has to:) I hope....fingers crossed.

[Tx Oriole]

He has to:) I hope....fingers crossed.

We all do.

[LoyalBirdFan]

Where is the 'Neither' option?

[weams]

Exactly. He is downright filthy at times too. Santana has always been the better of the two.

Dumb question-did he cost a pick?

Yes, he did. It's not a dumb question.

[Yardball85]

I take Ubaldo- Shorter commitment, and I think it's worth hanging on to him to see if he rediscovers his form.

[MurphDogg]

ERA+ of 112 and fewer years at a lower AAV or ERA+ of 100 and a year older? Not particularly close. It's Ubaldo.

[Guest]

Who'd you rather?

Ervin at 4 for 55. Why do you put Ubaldo at 3 for 39 are you forgetting the 12m they paid him last year?

[Guest]

I take Ubaldo- Shorter commitment, and I think it's worth hanging on to him to see if he rediscovers his form.

It would be the same deal for Ervin here if they picked him last year.

[Dipper9]

I still take Jimenez. I still believe he will get better. IMO

Me too. He won't live up to his contract, but it's a good bet he has a much better season this year than 2014.

Which is one reason I would have done Chen for Cespedes.