Smith for Matusz...?

[waroriole]

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Still can't believe Tillman survived that.

[xian4]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Been brewing for awhile but hearing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mariners?src=hash">#Mariners</a> are Very close to trade for Seth Smith.</p>— Shannon Drayer (@shannondrayer) <a href="

">December 30, 2014</a></blockquote>

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[AlbionHero]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maurebr01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.mlbtraderumors.com

Sounds like this is the guy going to the Padres

[Guest]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Padres?src=hash">#Padres</a> have been trying to get RHP Brandon Mauer from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mariners?src=hash">#Mariners</a> in trade talks involving OF Seth Smith.</p>— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) <a href="

">December 30, 2014</a></blockquote>

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And people thought Matusz would get him.

[Number5]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Padres?src=hash">#Padres</a> have been trying to get RHP Brandon Mauer from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mariners?src=hash">#Mariners</a> in trade talks involving OF Seth Smith.</p>— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) <a href="

">December 30, 2014</a></blockquote>

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And people thought Matusz would get him.

LOL. I still think Matusz was enough. Maurer career 66 ERA+ in 2 years. Matusz 84+ career, 116 and 110 the last 2 years. Matusz was 99 and 96 ERA+ his first two years. And Maurer, as poor as he has shown thus far, still represents Padres selling Smith high coming off his career season at 32 years old. One team is hoping that a young pitcher who has performed poorly his first two years in the majors can turn it around, and the other team is hoping that a career year at 32 years of age isn't a mirage, and that $13 million for 2 years makes sense. Not understanding the tears being shed here at all.

[33rdst]

Yeah, I think it's the money. Given what the Padres got back the O's could have matched that easily. My guess is the O's wanted them to take some money back. Or they didn't like the two years. We have all of our dollars tied up in arbitration and Ubaldo this year.

[Number5]

You don't believe the O's offered Matusz straight up and willing to take on Smith's contract?

I believe they would have been happy to do that but the Mariners obviously like a guy with 3 more years of service time, pre-arbitration, and probably a little more upside as a reliever, with a small chance (guess you could say the same of Matusz) of being a starter.

Don't know what the Orioles offered. As I said all along, Matusz would be plenty, IMO, but I wasn't sure that he was a fit for SD. My thoughts were more along the lines of a team's 15-20 ranked prospect, as MLB.com's Adams had suggested. Maurer looks to be right in that price range to me. As I said, I think the key for SD was to get out from under the 2/$13MM obligation to a bench bat.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Mauer has plus stuff. He is far superior to Matusz imo. Hasn't been good as a starter (but the potential is still there) and may very well be a shutdown reliever.

[weams]

Mauer has plus stuff. He is far superior to Matusz imo. Hasn't been good as a starter (but the potential is still there) and may very well be a shutdown reliever.

Where does the money break down also?

[Number5]

Mauer has plus stuff. He is far superior to Matusz imo. Hasn't been good as a starter (but the potential is still there) and may very well be a shutdown reliever.

The primary motivation for San Diego was obviously the thirteen million dollars.

[Babypowder]

Mauer has plus stuff. He is far superior to Matusz imo. Hasn't been good as a starter (but the potential is still there) and may very well be a shutdown reliever.

This. Maurer is far more valuable than Matusz. Younger, under control longer, cheaper, plus stuff, and was already dominant as a reliever but still has the potential to stick as a starter. Matusz is a dime a dozen reliever making real money. He has very very little value.

[weams]

The primary motivation for San Diego was obviously the thirteen million dollars.

They probably would have all but given him away to save that.

[LoyalBirdFan]

They probably would have all but given him away to save that.

That's pretty much what the did.

[AlbionHero]

I can't believe people are actually putting Maurer and Matusz on the same level. Maurer is an actual prospect while Matusz is a bust whos out of options.

[Guest]

I can't believe people are actually putting Maurer and Matusz on the same level. Maurer is an actual prospect while Matusz is a bust whos out of options.

So much this.