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TonySoprano

By TonySoprano
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Rank them from most want to sign to least  

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  1. 1. Rank them from most want to sign to least

    • 1. Chen, 2. Davis, 3. Wieters
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    • 1. Chen, 2. Wieters, 3. Davis
      20
    • 1. Davis, 2. Chen, 3. Wieters
      36
    • 1. Davis, 2. Wieters, 3. Chen
      11
    • 1. Wieters, 2. Chen, 3. Davis
      15
    • 1. Wieters, 2. Davis, 3. Chen
      8

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BohKnowsBmore Hangout Grand Counsel

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Let 'em walk.

Davis is probably a 2-3 win player going forward. He'll turn 30 at the start of next year. Some club is going to give him a 6 year deal worth at least $90-$100m. I don't think that club should be the Orioles.

Wieters is a career 100 OPS+ catcher that will be 30 at the start of next season. The worst possible thing to happen w/ Wieters happened this year: he started late, he slumped for awhile...and unless he rebounds it's a situation where the O's got very little production in a walk year. He'll at least get Brian McCann money.

Between Matusz, Hunter, Wieters, Davis, Chen and De Aza, etc. off the books the O's should have $40m+ of wiggle room next year. They should use that money on the following:

Jason Heyward (will be 26 at the start of next season). I feel you have to be ready to at least go 6-8 years on him. Probably going to be $15m/year. So $90m-$120m. Lock up Manny long term. I think they'll have to roll the dice with someone like Pearce for 2 years at 1B unless they really believe Christian Walker can legitimately contribute (I don't) in a meaningful way. The FA class at 1B is really, really bad. 3B, SS, 2B and 1B as well as CF and RF are set.

That remains SP and a corner OF spot. I'm not completely sold on Dariel Alvarez. But a club can try the revolving door at a corner OF spot if their 2 other spots are locked up (Jones, Alvarez). So I'd be ok with them trying Alvarez, Snider, etc. there.

So for SP? A lot of ridiculously out of price range guys (Price, Greinke). Cueto is only making $10m this year, but he'll get at least $15m a year for 5. I don't see the O's going that route.

So, I don't know. Maybe they resign Chen. That's not a terrible idea at his age.

I think we may sign Pearce to something like 3/$15M as he is a decent bet to average at least 1 WAR per season on the deal. He could give us 1B platoon/COF/DH/emergency 2B play, so he could have a spot on the 25 if Davis is not re-signed (and Parmelee is not back). His competition for a spot consists of Paredes and Reimold mostly, I would think. The former has a spot over him at this point, the latter may not.

If we can get Heyward at $15M per year, we should be all over it. I think 6/$90M would be a steal for him, but I think 8//$150M is a more likely outcome between the two (although, it likely ends up somewhere in between). I think Jones ends up re-signed barring any huge setbacks over the next few years and moves to COF in 5 or 6 years through the remainder of his career. Would be nice to have 2/3 OF spots locked down for the better part of the next decade.

I'm with you, if we have 2/3 OF spots locked down, then a platoon/carousel at one COF spot is not the worst thing in the world.

I doubt we re-sign Chen. He gets at least $60M/4 IMO if not $70M/5+. With Tillman, Jimenez, Gonzalez and Gausman penciled in for four spots, with Bundy needing to be on the MLB roster and Wright/TJ available for spot starts, I could see us signing a Guthrie-esque reclamation project for a RP/6th start option, but not much more. I think there are better uses of resources at this point (i.e. extend Manny, extend Tillman, etc.).

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BohKnowsBmore Hangout Grand Counsel

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I take Wieters. He knows this staff well. Rather have him catching Tilly, Gonzo, Ubaldo and Gausman.

Out of curiosity, is there any market for Joseph this offseason? He has a lot of control left and there is a dearth of quality catching options around the league.

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I've thought about this for quite a while and I've come to the conclusion that I'd try to sign Davis.....fire away.

Of the two I would definitely prefer Davis. His power is more of a premium to me than Matt's catching. His versatility makes Matt look like a statue. His athleticism hints that he will age more gracefully than Matt.

I might consider 6/90. Heyward will cost far more.

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Of the two I would definitely prefer Davis. His power is more of a premium to me than Matt's catching. His versatility makes Matt look like a statue. His athleticism hints that he will age more gracefully than Matt.

I might consider 6/90. Heyward will cost far more.

So will Davis.
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Out of curiosity, is there any market for Joseph this offseason? He has a lot of control left and there is a dearth of quality catching options around the league.

Why would you want to trade Joseph?.....For the reason you stated, he stays. And next year matches up with Clevenger for the catching tandem for the next couple of years.

As for choosing between Davis and Weiters in the OP: I would say Davis will be the easiest and least expensive to sign.

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Out of curiosity, is there any market for Joseph this offseason? He has a lot of control left and there is a dearth of quality catching options around the league.

More then likely, yes. Teams can always use a backup catcher.. say like the Braves.

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Why would you want to trade Joseph?.....For the reason you stated, he stays. And next year matches up with Clevenger for the catching tandem for the next couple of years.

As for choosing between Davis and Weiters in the OP: I would say Davis will be the easiest and least expensive to sign.

Clevenger is a AAAA player, at most a back up. Caleb is not a replacement to Weiters. Weiters is gonna be the cheapest as his numbers this year is gonna lower his value. Teams will want Davis because of Defense, ability to play different positions and he's a power hitter that will crank out 30 HRs a year. He'll easily get $15m to $20m.

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Why would you want to trade Joseph?.....For the reason you stated, he stays. And next year matches up with Clevenger for the catching tandem for the next couple of years.

As for choosing between Davis and Weiters in the OP: I would say Davis will be the easiest and least expensive to sign.

Well, if we resign Wieters, one could reasonably ask if we could get something of value for Joseph.

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Plenty haven't voted. Who would you sign first if you could?

As it stands now

Chen 1 -25, 2 - 24, 3 -11

Davis 1 -12, 2 -13, 3 - 35

Wieters 1 - 23, 2 -23, 3 - 14

If I scored it 3 points for 1st, 2 points for 2nd, and 1 point for 3rd

Chen 134

Wieters 129

Davis 97

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