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Brit said last night that the O's would probably cut a position player when they activate Jason Garcia this weekend. I would think that Snider is the one to go.

http://www.masnsports.com/media.php?show_id=2527767&p=

I'd like to know what happened to Snider's swing between last season's impressive second half with the Pirates, fine start with the O's, and now. The difference is so stark, the problem(s) must be something that can be spotted and coached.
Play Lough in LF and bat him ninth. At least you get great D and speed at the bottom of the order....if he ever gets on.

Garcia has value. I'd rather have a an extra arm in the pen. Obviously the team has shifted and are playing "playoff" baseball. Well part of playing that style is pulling SP's early when they are struggling. We've lost a couple winnable games over the last 10 days where it was pretty obvious that the pitcher was done (IDC about the stat line), and Buck had to try and squeeze the 5th and 6th inning out of them. So having an extra arm is more valuable than Snider.

I'm also coming around to the idea of just throwing Lough out there and batting him 9th and making our defense even that much better. If Lough can play great D and impact the game with his speed he could be worth it. But at this point we need someone that has some higher upside. I could live with Lough over Snider but that aint saying too much.

I'd go with Mancini or Alvarez. I'm a believer that Mancini could provide us a spark for a few weeks until rosters expand. Davis can go back to RF and Mancini could play 1st vs RHP and DH vs LHP, with Reimold playing RF/LF.

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Garret Atkins II?

As bad as Snider has ben lately, Atkins was a special kind of suck. He put up an OPS+ of 64 in Colorado the season before we acquired him and then put up an OPS+ of 55 with us. He had already begun his swift decline long before joining Birdland. I have no idea what happened to Travis. At least he was on an upswing last year.

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As bad as Snider has ben lately, Atkins was a special kind of suck. He put up an OPS+ of 64 in Colorado the season before we acquired him and then put up an OPS+ of 55 with us. He had already begun his swift decline long before joining Birdland. I have no idea what happened to Travis. At least he was on an upswing last year.

Atkins might have been the worst free agent signing in Oriole history. $4 million for -1.3 WAR in just 44 games. He scored five runs and drove in nine. There was just no plausible reason to sign him to anything above a minor league deal.

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Garcia has value. I'd rather have a an extra arm in the pen. Obviously the team has shifted and are playing "playoff" baseball. Well part of playing that style is pulling SP's early when they are struggling. We've lost a couple winnable games over the last 10 days where it was pretty obvious that the pitcher was done (IDC about the stat line), and Buck had to try and squeeze the 5th and 6th inning out of them. So having an extra arm is more valuable than Snider.

I would love to know what games we lost by leavng he starer to long. Lets look at the last 5 loses.

Oakland lost 5-0. Can't in a game you don't score. Gonzo left in the 5th down already.

Sunday vs Tigers. 6-1 loss we were down 3-0 in the first Ublado gave up 3 in the 5th but that was after he had retired 12 straight. I guess Buck should have known he would just fall apart right there.

Tigers 9-8. We were down early again and Buck took Gonzo out very early in the third inning as soon as he got in trouble again nothing you can do about that and then Norris put gas on the fire.

Tampa Bay 3-1 We had the lead and Tilman was cruising into the 8th allowing just 2 hits and 2 walks. After lead off walk he pulled him for O'day who was awful.

New York 9-3 We were down 6-1 in the third when Ubaldo was pulled.

New York 4-3. We gave up 3 early then Gausman settled down and shut the Yanks down before a homer in the 5th. He defianlty not leave him in to long as he was in controll but had a bad pitch.

New York 3-2 Chen gave up two early then again settled down but gave up 1 in the 6th but again he was pitching well and had no reason to come out with just 75 pitches going into the 6th and just two runs given up.

Tigers 7-3 We were down early again trailing 6-2 after 3 innings. That again on the starter.

So not once since the All star break have we lost a game when a starter was even remotly left in to long.

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Snider has no bat speed. He does have a decent eye, but any pitcher with a decent fastball can get it by him.

So my question is this-do we have scouts? How didn't our scouts catch this before the trade? Serious question.

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So my question is this-do we have scouts? How didn't our scouts catch this before the trade? Serious question.

Great question. I was not a big fan of this trade because of what we gave up to get him. Those two pitchers are still question marks, but I would much rather have them in our system than Snider. I felt that way at the time of the trade as well. I would have been OK with one or the other, but not both.

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