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What's the historical precedent you're using to calculate fair compensation? Cause that's how the industry always judges what is fair and what is unreasonable.

There was never a precedent to use. Besides. It's long over. And it IS over. We have gone round about this too many times. Let it die. We all have our opinions and our own factual tidbits to gnaw on.

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I don't think Angelos owes Duquette anything. Gave him a chance after Duquette was black balled from baseball. Gave him a nice new contract after one year. Then Duquette wants to be a snake and talk to the enemy behind the Orioles back? I'm not a huge Duquette fan anyhow. I think Buck has changed the culture here more then anything. Duquette could get fired tomorrow and I wouldn't care. I believed he wasn't focused on the Orioles this past offseason, and I don't believe he will be totally focused on the Orioles best interest going forward.

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I'm sick of that attitude. He signed a 6-year deal that Angelos didn't have to give him. I'm sure he's disappointed Angelos didn't let him go, but I don't consider it bush league for a team to hold a guy to a contract, especially when they already gave him a better deal once that provided tremendous long term security. Duquette should do his job professionally regardless of any disappointment on his part, and frankly, I think he has done that. I'm not one of those people who believes Dan would have done anything differently for the Orioles last winter if Toronto hadn't come knocking.

Nor am I. I read that stuff and get so sick and tired of that BS. But it is such a tasty and easy narrative. :rolleyes:

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Nick Cafardo was also the source of the last story and I don't regard this as reporting anything new. I don't feel bad for Duquette at all, considering that Angelos ripped up his three-year deal after the 2012 season and extended him to 2018. Contracts are a two-way street. I'm not worried about "tensions," I'm worried because the O's are in a tenuous position with players leaving, a limited budget and a weak farm system. It's going to take an excellent offseason to get us back in contention in 2016. A lot of things will have to go right, no matter who the GM is.

Agreed, but if these tensions are taking up valuable time and effort to hash them out, that's time and effort we aren't spending on improving the club. A front office with their ducks in a row is going to do what needs to be done while we sit around bickering.

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Cafardo and Duquette have a long history, and Cafardo has generally been supportive of DD. If Cafardo says there are rumblings in the O's FO, it wouldn't surprise me to learn, at some point, that DD was his source. I'm not saying that is the case, just that it wouldn't surprise me

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Cafardo and Duquette have a long history, and Cafardo has generally been supportive of DD. If Cafardo says there are rumblings in the O's FO, it wouldn't surprise me to learn, at some point, that DD was his source. I'm not saying that is the case, just that it wouldn't surprise me

Makes sense. All that matters is whether or not there is truth to it.

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Nor am I. I read that stuff and get so sick and tired of that BS. But it is such a tasty and easy narrative. :rolleyes:

Carfado was supportive of Duquette only when he could use that to throw stones at his latest Boston victim. That place is a meat grinder. Much like New York.

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I agree with this. And of course I have no way of knowing if there is any truth or whether, as Frobby said, he had pages to fill and a favorite anti-hero or not.

That's the case with all reporting these days, and not just baseball. Reporters use quotes that could be weeks or months old in a story that people think is current. I don't consider it ethical journalism, but that is the way it is done today.

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I agree with this. And of course I have no way of knowing if there is any truth or whether, as Frobby said, he had pages to fill and a favorite anti-hero or not.

He is getting that info from somewhere. I doubt he is just making it up. If it is coming from DD himself then we know how he feels.

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I don't think Angelos owes Duquette anything. Gave him a chance after Duquette was black balled from baseball. Gave him a nice new contract after one year. Then Duquette wants to be a snake and talk to the enemy behind the Orioles back? I'm not a huge Duquette fan anyhow. I think Buck has changed the culture here more then anything. Duquette could get fired tomorrow and I wouldn't care. I believed he wasn't focused on the Orioles this past offseason, and I don't believe he will be totally focused on the Orioles best interest going forward.
I agree. He gets hired after nobody wants him for what ten years and then gets new contract before first one is up. People think he should get compensated. Yeah right.
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