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I use the term "mess" because the O's are in a very precarious situation. The wrong roster moves could really sink this franchise into another 10 year drought. There is a decent core nucleus of Adam Jones, Manny Machado, and possibly Jonathan Schoop if he continues to develop. However this core is surrounded by uncertainty everywhere else, especially the rotation.

Look at the playoff contenders: The Dodgers and Cubs had an awesome #1 and #2. Greinke, Kershaw, Arrieta, Lester. The Mets have an awesome #1,2 and 3! Syndergaard, DeGrom, Harvey.

The O's rotation next year has: 1.??? 2. Tillman 3. Jimenez 4. Gaussman? 5. Gonzales? YUCK.

And we stand to lose Wieters, Chen, and Davis. Besides Trey Mancini, the minor leagues offer nothing. And Bundy and Harvey can't stay healthy. Plus, we make stupid trades like Arrieta for Feldman, and Davies for Parra.

I think this franchise is in big trouble. I'm not sure how I'd fix it. I think I'd let Wieters go and use Clevenger/Joseph. I'd let Davis go. That would hurt a lot, but he seems ready to implode at any time and revert to his .200 avg self. I'd try to sign O'Day and Chen. I'd try to sign an ace (although there aren't many out there- Price? Greinke?) and try to sign 1-2 other capable starters.

Pitching. We need pitching...

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Well known Press Box interview. "For example, I was at a meeting in Milwaukee and everyone was talking about the most recent deal the Astros made giving [pitcher Roy] Oswalt $73 million for five years, $14.5 million a year. (chuckle) That is lunacy. He's going to pitch every fifth day. A good ballplayer and all that, but $14.5.million a year…now come on." http://www.pressboxonline.com/story/738/the-last-laugh-q-a-with-peter-angelos

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Well known Press Box interview. "For example, I was at a meeting in Milwaukee and everyone was talking about the most recent deal the Astros made giving [pitcher Roy] Oswalt $73 million for five years, $14.5 million a year. (chuckle) That is lunacy. He's going to pitch every fifth day. A good ballplayer and all that, but $14.5.million a year…now come on." http://www.pressboxonline.com/story/738/the-last-laugh-q-a-with-peter-angelos

The finances in baseball changed considerably since that interview. Perhaps PGA has adjusted his position as well.

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The finances in baseball changed considerably since that interview. Perhaps PGA has adjusted his position as well.
Wake me when we sign a SP to more than AAV 15M, and more than 4 years. Ubaldo is the limit I think. I doubt that you'll find PA has changed any of the other attitude expressed in that interview.
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Wake me when we sign a SP to more than AAV 15M, and more than 4 years. Ubaldo is the limit I think. I doubt that you'll find PA has changed any of the other attitude expressed in that interview.

Me too. I think this goes back to the "grow the arms" meme. That would be a great idea, if we could actually, you know, DO IT.

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I don't think it's a mess. It's all about keeping the right guys and signing/trading for the right guys. I'd keep Davis, Pearce and O'day. Hope a player like Puig or Harvey goes on the trade market. I know DD does his bargain hunting but I really hope we don't rely on that to fill major holes in the rotation and lineup.

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Fix the pitching?

Sign David Price (7/175) and Jordan Zimmerman (6/120)

Trade Ubaldo Jimenez, Dylan Bundy, and Chance Sisco to the Dodgers for Yasiel Puig

I don't like plans that hinge on another team trading us one of their best players, even when the player is rumored to be on the market. Just seems like wishful thinking.

I am absolutely on board with Price. My plan would be to build around him and spend whatever remaining dollars we have on a couple of bats.

If it turns out Puig is available, then so much the better.

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I don't like plans that hinge on another team trading us one of their best players, even when the player is rumored to be on the market. Just seems like wishful thinking.

I am absolutely on board with Price. My plan would be to build around him and spend whatever remaining dollars we have on a couple of bats.

If it turns out Puig is available, then so much the better.

I'd trade Britton for someone like Puig, or a ML ready top prospect bat. TEX and HOU have a bunch.
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