Offseason Rumors and Deals Around MLB

[SteveA]

I would totally pay more to live next to a griffin riding yeti.

You say that now. Talk to me after you've spent a couple months shovelling yeti poop off your lawn.

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[SteveO]

Yeah, it's their job to generate discussion, so he's succeeded at that, and he can't be proven wrong.

Well if the goal was to generate discussion and your gonna simply make stuff up it would make a whole lot more sense to say a current teammate said these things and felt that way.

My guess is that Puig is indeed an idiot who is disliked for being such. I have little doubt that one of his former teammates who actually has a little respect for the game and what it has provided him in life would feel that way about him and be willing to say so in a somewhat anonymous way.

[mdbdotcom]

This talk of Puig reminds me of Carlton Fisk, while catching for the White Sox, standing at the plate and yelling at the Yankees' Deion Sanders for not running out a popup. Classic.

[24fps]

You say that now. Talk to me after you've spent a couple months shovelling yeti poop off your lawn.

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I'd worry more about the griffin poop on the roof...

[SteveO]

I'd worry more about the griffin poop on the roof...

lol

Imagine what your car windshield would be like

Could make for some interesting mornings

[Can_of_corn]

lol

Imagine what your car windshield would be like

Could make for some interesting mornings

Would also be rough on any pets you might have.

[El Gordo]

You say that now. Talk to me after you've spent a couple months shovelling yeti poop off your lawn.

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[Going Underground]

Yeah, put me there. Heyward is grossly overrated.

From the Post on a slow day:

But is Heyward the guy to which to grant that fair contract? By traditional measures, $200 million sounds absurd for Heyward because he has never driven in more than 82 runs in a season, has a career batting average of .268, has averaged fewer than 13 homers per season over the past three years. Yet the advanced analytics crowd, which tends to factor in defense and base running more, loves him. Over the past four seasons, here are the players who have accumulated more wins above replacement than Heyward, according to FanGraphs: Mike Trout, Andrew McCutchen, Josh Donaldson, Buster Posey, Miguel Cabrera and Adrian Beltre. Heady company, for sure.

Offensively, there is discord in baseball, and even among the Nats? top evaluators, about what Heyward could become. There is one segment that believes he has untapped raw power, and the 27 homers he hit in 2012 should be the norm, not an aberration. (He otherwise hasn?t hit more than 14 homers since 2011). But other evaluators believe that, for a 6-foot-5, 245-pound specimen, he hits like a smaller man, compacting his lower half and failing to generate power consistently. This evaluation makes him a second- or sixth-hole hitter, and it?s hard to imagine spending premium dollars for those spots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/12/11/nationals-cubs-cards-evaluating-the-market-for-free-agent-outfielder-jason-heyward/

[Machado13]

Normally I would say a player getting criticized could be being misunderstood or just perspective but way too many guys have beefed with puig or said that he's a bad apple.

[NATTYBO's]

From the Post on a slow day:

But is Heyward the guy to which to grant that fair contract? By traditional measures, $200 million sounds absurd for Heyward because he has never driven in more than 82 runs in a season, has a career batting average of .268, has averaged fewer than 13 homers per season over the past three years. Yet the advanced analytics crowd, which tends to factor in defense and base running more, loves him. Over the past four seasons, here are the players who have accumulated more wins above replacement than Heyward, according to FanGraphs: Mike Trout, Andrew McCutchen, Josh Donaldson, Buster Posey, Miguel Cabrera and Adrian Beltre. Heady company, for sure.

Offensively, there is discord in baseball, and even among the Nats? top evaluators, about what Heyward could become. There is one segment that believes he has untapped raw power, and the 27 homers he hit in 2012 should be the norm, not an aberration. (He otherwise hasn?t hit more than 14 homers since 2011). But other evaluators believe that, for a 6-foot-5, 245-pound specimen, he hits like a smaller man, compacting his lower half and failing to generate power consistently. This evaluation makes him a second- or sixth-hole hitter, and it?s hard to imagine spending premium dollars for those spots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/12/11/nationals-cubs-cards-evaluating-the-market-for-free-agent-outfielder-jason-heyward/

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Great Article, couldn't agree with it more. I am in the camp that Heyward is overrated since I believe that speed doesn't age well and he'll need to develop power to maintain WAR which looks questionable at this time. I realize that he's only 26 so his short term WAR may prove enough but I would hate to have that contract once he's in his 30s.

[El Gordo]

Heyward has made his decision, STL and WAS not optimistic. Leaves Cubs and LAA.

[TonySoprano]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash">#STLCards</a> out on Heyward, sources tell me and <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi">@jonmorosi</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/dgoold">@dgoold</a> had indicated they no longer were in play.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="

">December 11, 2015</a></blockquote>

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[mdbdotcom]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Belief is that nats offered about $200M (maybe exactly $200M), yet doesn't look like it'll be them. That's a big try here.</p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="

">December 11, 2015</a></blockquote>

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[El Gordo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Belief is that nats offered about $200M (maybe exactly $200M), yet doesn't look like it'll be them. That's a big try here.</p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="

">December 11, 2015</a></blockquote>

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If 200 M is the top bid then he went to the Cubs. If it turns out to be more then it's LAA.

[nevadaO]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Multiple sources indicate Heyward has indeed chosen Cubs over Cards, Nats.</p>— Gordon Wittenmyer (@GDubCub) <a href="

">December 11, 2015</a></blockquote>

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