Jump to content

Trade Target: Chris Coghlan

CaptainRedbeard

By CaptainRedbeard
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 60
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Tryptamine Major Leaguer Rising Star

Tryptamine

Posted
Posted
Soler just had a brutal year. 30% K rate and didn't hit for power, only a .361 BABIP propped him up offensively. He also doesn't look like a good defensive player. He has plenty of promise but he's not the can't miss guy he was last year at this time.

Several things. Soler was swinging too flat during the year and he addressed that adding a bit of loft to his swing. The result was the tear he went on in the playoffs. As far as his babip goes, he's always going to have an exceptionally high babip because he hits a ton of line drives. If I remember correctly he was in the top 5 in MLB for exit velocity.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Number5 Hangout Grand Counsel

Number5

Posted
Posted
Several things. Soler was swinging too flat during the year and he addressed that adding a bit of loft to his swing. The result was the tear he went on in the playoffs. As far as his babip goes, he's always going to have an exceptionally high babip because he hits a ton of line drives. If I remember correctly he was in the top 5 in MLB for exit velocity.

Cubs are looking to trade him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CaptainRedbeard All-Star

CaptainRedbeard

Posted
  • Author
Posted
Several things. Soler was swinging too flat during the year and he addressed that adding a bit of loft to his swing. The result was the tear he went on in the playoffs. As far as his babip goes, he's always going to have an exceptionally high babip because he hits a ton of line drives. If I remember correctly he was in the top 5 in MLB for exit velocity.

He's got tons of power, he could certainly translate that into much much more than he exhibited this year. That's his upside. But he still has only 15 home runs in 500 ABs in the majors. I think it's safe to say that alot more was expected out of him power-wise coming into this season.

As for the BABIP, .361 is stupid high. Sure he may hit the ball hard, that's great, but he's not fast at all. He should have a high BABIP, but I'd expect him to be a .320-.330 expected BABIP guy. That's a long way to fall from a .361 BABIP that only gets you to a 96 wRC+ like he had this year.

These are the career BABIPs of some similarly slow guys who hit the ball really hard (since 2000, min 1000ABs):

Votto (one of the best of all time): .357

Goldschmidt: .355

Cabrera: .348

Mauer: .344

Abreu: .344

Holliday: .338

Freeman: .336

Link to comment
Share on other sites
weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
Several things. Soler was swinging too flat during the year and he addressed that adding a bit of loft to his swing. The result was the tear he went on in the playoffs. As far as his babip goes, he's always going to have an exceptionally high babip because he hits a ton of line drives. If I remember correctly he was in the top 5 in MLB for exit velocity.

I think Soler is actually going to be one of the guys who never quite makes it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
Depends on what type of pitcher they can get for him. I get the feeling that Theo is just fine with things right now. However, if he can land a real stud like Carassco then he'll make a move.

Who are you gonna trade to get that? Certainly not a spare outfielder.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Uli2001
      Gunnar Henderson 2024

      By Uli2001 · Posted

      Thank you. I knew there was something bogus about that post. I saw Cal play SS. And Gunnar is no Cal at SS. Not even close. And this is coming from a big fan of Gunnar. I would like to see him play a traditional power position. Call me old fashioned. He’s hurting the team at SS. 
    • EddeeEddee
      This is the kind of thing that drives me crazy

      By EddeeEddee · Posted

      Interesting.  We live in a data obsessed world now but it's not the answer to everything.  There should be a mix.  
    • HowAboutThat
      Tracking Ex Oriole Thread

      By HowAboutThat · Posted

      Tobias Myers for the brewers tonight: 6 innings 4H -1ER 1BB 11 Ks. not bad at all!
    • EddeeEddee
      This is the kind of thing that drives me crazy

      By EddeeEddee · Posted

      I doubt solid MLB pitchers can be acquired just by trading position players the vast majority of the time.  Look at how we acquired Bradish and Povich -- by trading solid (at the time anyway) MLB level pitchers.  In those trades we were on the other end, but we forced teams to trade good young pitchers for Bundy and Lopez respectively.  Now we did acquire McDermott and Seth Johnson by trading Trey Mancini.  So it does happen that pitching can sometimes be acquired trading only a position player, but Mancini had had a strong major league career to that point.  My point is I don't think you can expect to acquire pitching only by trading position players -- but if you can it may need to be a strong veteran that is not easy to part with. Perhaps we could acquire Tarik Skubal for just Jackson Holliday -- or Holliday plus one or two other strong position prospects.  But that would be a whole other level of a blockbuster trade. Also, I'm not sure how we can say the system is bereft of homegrown minor league pitching talent and then complain that we traded Baumeister and Chace -- two homegrown minor league pitchers that everyone here seems to agree are talented.  We can criticize the trade, but clearly there was and probably still are some desirable arms in the system that we'd rather not trade.  No, none of the ones Elias drafted have made it to the bigs yet, but maybe those two would have been among the first.    
    • Aristotelian
      This is the kind of thing that drives me crazy

      By Aristotelian · Posted

      Seth Johnson on the Phillies' "philosophy": Orioles are data driven, Phillies are more "old school". I don't get much out of this but it's a data point. https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/mlb/philadelphia-phillies/seth-johnson-mlb-debut-phillies-orioles-trade/613582/ “I think the big thing is that Baltimore is very data-based,” he said. “Here’s a nice blend of the numbers and baseball strategy. Kind of old school. And I’ve been really enjoying it so far. For me, it’s kind of simplified everything. Concentrating on basic concepts like moving the fastball around. Not worrying about pitch shapes all the time. Just going out here and trying to pitch.”
    • Aristotelian
      Winter 2024 40-Man Additions

      By Aristotelian · Posted

      If we have room, why wouldn't we add Pham and Van Loon just to have available depth in AAA (whether or not they are at risk of being taken)? 
    • Jammer7
      Winter 2024 40-Man Additions

      By Jammer7 · Posted

      I think Young will be added, and that is it. I like Pham, but no AAA experience makes him unlikely to be taken. Whatever open spots should be used to upgrade the bullpen and other pitching depth. It is well documented here that we don’t have much beyond raw guys like Strowd and Heid. we lack flexibility and options. This has to change. 

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...