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Austin Jackson or Pedro Alvarez? ( Jackson Signs in Chicago)

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What do O's do after getting spurned by Fowler?  

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  1. 1. What do O's do after getting spurned by Fowler?

    • Sign Alvarez
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    • Sign Jackson
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    • Roll with what we got
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He's healthier and probably better defensively than Reimold, and more proven than Rickard / D. Alvarez.

More proven has no meaning unless that which has been proved is better than the alternative (projections). Proven to suck is not an endorsement.

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Between the two, Jackson is the easy choice. The Orioles have plenty of guys who can hit home runs and strike out. Alvarez is so bad with the glove that Trumbo would be forced to play in the field most of the time. That's not what I want to see at all (and I think Buck Showalter would back me up on this, at least in a private moment). At least Jackson can play quite well defensively along with an acceptable level of offense in a lineup that's otherwise loaded. Alvarez would mean 500 strikeouts among three players (albeit probably 90 to 100 home runs).

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Between the two, Jackson is the easy choice. The Orioles have plenty of guys who can hit home runs and strike out. Alvarez is so bad with the glove that Trumbo would be forced to play in the field most of the time. That's not what I want to see at all (and I think Buck Showalter would back me up on this, at least in a private moment). At least Jackson can play quite well defensively along with an acceptable level of offense in a lineup that's otherwise loaded. Alvarez would mean 500 strikeouts among three players (albeit probably 90 to 100 home runs).
If I want a COF who can't hit but can play defense I'd prefer one of Rickard, D Alvarez or Hoes.
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Definitely should sign Jackson. If we were willing to give Fowler 3/33 then 1/9 for Jackson shouldn't be too difficult to come up with. Here's why I prefer Jackson to anything else:

* Solid defense

* Speed on the bases similar to Fowler -- will steal some bases and hit some doubles and even a triple once in a while.

* Unlike Pedro Alvarez, has at least shown he is capable of posting a decent OBP in the past

If he can provide 70% of the WAR that Fowler does, it's a good deal. I'd try batting him #2 with Manny hitting leadoff and possibly "promote" him to leadoff if he shows that he can get on base.

If Alvarez is still out there after you sign Jackson and you can get him for a bag of balls, then I wouldn't mind the O's snatching him up too.

What a bad post ...I'm mean are you just making it up?

Last Two years......

Pedro Alvarez. OBP .315. 10/3 in SBs over the last two years

Jackson's 2year OBP is .309, he is 17/10 the last two years combined.

Jackson cant hold Fowlers Jock, and Alvarez can't be had for a bag of balls Scott Boras is his agent.

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Between the two, Jackson is the easy choice. The Orioles have plenty of guys who can hit home runs and strike out. Alvarez is so bad with the glove that Trumbo would be forced to play in the field most of the time. That's not what I want to see at all (and I think Buck Showalter would back me up on this, at least in a private moment). At least Jackson can play quite well defensively along with an acceptable level of offense in a lineup that's otherwise loaded. Alvarez would mean 500 strikeouts among three players (albeit probably 90 to 100 home runs).
The guy we really wanted struck out 150 times a season with very limited power. The guy youwant can't hit and is caught stealing 40 percent of the time. He is not a defensive wizard. I am just not endorsing your vision of who Austin Jackson has become. You say hitting home runs like it is a bat thing."Power in the defense of run scoring is no vice. And speed in the pursuit of base running is not necessarily a virtue."
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Who do you want ? Jackson can't hit and his defense has declined. Why pay a lot for what you can get in house for a lot less.

I have said a few times that my order of preference is Bruce, Jackson and Alvarez.

If Trumbo wasn't so bad in the OF, Alvarez would be number 2.

The In-house plan killed us last season, not watching that crap again.

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The In-house plan killed us last season, not watching that crap again.

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The plan last year was Delmon young and Travis Snider. They did not work. Then Parra. He did not work. All three were acquisitions.

You must be talking about when Reimold struck out against Francoeur or when Dariel Alvarez make the number four play in all of MLB last season.

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The plan last year was Delmon young and Travis Snider. They did not work. Then Parra. He did not work. All three were acquisitions.

You must be talking about when Reimold struck out against Francoeur or when Dariel Alvarez make the number four play in all of MLB last season.

You support whatever the O's do:)

You know my thoughts on Snider and Reimold.

I like Alvarez a lot, unlike most, but he needs another year.

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You support whatever the O's do:)

You know my thoughts on Snider and Reimold.

I like Alvarez a lot, unlike most, but he needs another year.

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I don't support signing Jackson. I did not like the Parra acquisition. I want Jay Bruce.

I never cared for Jeremy Guthrie or Francisco Rodriguez.

I am a fan of the Orioles no matter what they do. There is a difference. People here talk like they know what goes on behind the scenes. Most times we all don't. It's easy to second guess failures or successes.

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