5th Starter Watch

[Rene88]

The O's will not necessarily be blowing 2.6m if they release Worley. If they release Worley by this Saturday March 19th they would only have to pay him 433K. If the release him before the season opener they would have to 650K.

Here is the termination clause in the current CBA.

Good stuff Wildcard, thanks.

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[Number5]

The O's will not necessarily be blowing 2.6m if they release Worley. If they release Worley by this Saturday March 19th they would only have to pay him 433K. If the release him before the season opener they would have to pay 650K.

Here is the termination clause in the current CBA.

There are times that this applies and times that it doesn't. I am unsure as to what triggers this clause. Are we certain that this applies in Worley's case?

[wildcard]

There are times that this applies and times that it doesn't. I am unsure as to what triggers this clause. Are we certain that this applies in Worley's case?

There are several times when it does not apply:

1) The player can't be on the DL.

2) The player must not be performing well in ST.

3) The player can't be on a long term contract. It would not work for Jimenez.

4) I am not sure but I don't think it would work for Kim. International players on multi year contracts have different language in their contracts. That would be a negotiation between the Player, his agent and the team if Kim wanted to go back to Korea.

[Number5]

There are several times when it does not apply:

1) The player can't be on the DL.

2) The player must not be performing well in ST.

3) The player can't be on a long term contract. It would not work for Jimenez.

4) I am not sure but I don't think it would work for Kim. International players on multi year contracts have different language in their contracts. That would be a negotiation between the Player, his agent and the team if Kim wanted to go back to Korea.

Thank you. I imagine that there could be cases where #2 could be contentious. Who decides?

[Redskins Rick]

There are several times when it does not apply:

1) The player can't be on the DL.

2) The player must not be performing well in ST.

3) The player can't be on a long term contract. It would not work for Jimenez.

4) I am not sure but I don't think it would work for Kim. International players on multi year contracts have different language in their contracts. That would be a negotiation between the Player, his agent and the team if Kim wanted to go back to Korea.

Dang, and I thought a guaranteed contract, was just that, a guaranteed.

[wildcard]

Dang, and I thought a guaranteed contract, was just that, a guaranteed.

Year to year contracts for players with under 5 years of service are not really guarantee until opening day if the player performs poorly in ST. Right now Gonzalez, Tillman, could all be terminated. Not that the O's would want to do that. Their track record make their performance in ST not the determining factor.

There is a special clause for player with over 5 years but not at the 6 year mark. You will remember that Webb was due his whole salary because he had 5 years of service. Dan trade him to LA.

After 6 years of service I don't think the termination clause applies.

[terps19]

Still think Worley would be fine as a "long reliever", as much as those exist these days. With the O's staff, it could absolutely exist. Although I admit I'm intrigued if MacFarland is going to consistently throw 93 with that more over-the-top delivery. Option vs. blowing $2.6 million.

There are some intriguing battles going on right now.

Mike Wright and Tyler Wilson have each throw pretty darn well (except for one outing by Wright).

I still think Gallardo will come around and that Tillman will get back on track. Now for Gonzo who knows. And maybe, just maybe, Jimenez will have a good year. He has been pitching well lately too.

Maybe TJ starts to get stretched out?

Any info on when Matusz might start throwing again?

Chris Lee has been up and down, but I think he could possibly take over the McFarland role if McFarland is converted into a starter. Remember McFarland was a starter before being selected in the rule 5.

[Redskins Rick]

Year to year contracts for players with under 5 years of service are not really guarantee until opening day if the player performs poorly in ST. Right now Gonzalez, Tillman, could all be terminated. Not that the O's would want to do that. Their track record make their performance in ST not the determining factor.

There is a special clause for player with over 5 years but not at the 6 year mark. You will remember that Webb was due his whole salary because he had 5 years of service. Dan trade him to LA.

After 6 years of service I don't think the termination clause applies.

Good stuff here, thanks

[wildcard]

Thank you. I imagine that there could be cases where #2 could be contentious. Who decides?

The commissioner's office if the player or his agent files a compliant.

[wildcard]

There are some intriguing battles going on right now.

Mike Wright and Tyler Wilson have each throw pretty darn well (except for one outing by Wright).

I still think Gallardo will come around and that Tillman will get back on track. Now for Gonzo who knows. And maybe, just maybe, Jimenez will have a good year. He has been pitching well lately too.

Maybe TJ starts to get stretched out?

Any info on when Matusz might start throwing again?

Chris Lee has been up and down, but I think he could possibly take over the McFarland role if McFarland is converted into a starter. Remember McFarland was a starter before being selected in the rule 5.

Matusz is throwing off the mound. He should in a game soon.

Look for Dan to add a starter before opening day. Probably one with options or one on a minor league contract.

[terps19]

I hadn't considered MacFarland being stretched out. But hey, if he's throwing 93 and his breaking stuff is decent, maybe he could put up a 4ish ERA as a ML starter. Probably not, but might as well try and stretch him out since he usually starts in AAA anyway.

At this point, I think all options have to be considered. Unfortunately Bundy and Harvey have both looked pretty bad at times this spring, especially Harvey, I mean he had a horrid last outing.

But I didnt expect Harvey to make a run at the ML roster this spring. I was however hoping that he would be a little better than this.

[Bmorebirds24]

At this point, I think all options have to be considered. Unfortunately Bundy and Harvey have both looked pretty bad at times this spring, especially Harvey, I mean he had a horrid last outing.

But I didnt expect Harvey to make a run at the ML roster this spring. I was however hoping that he would be a little better than this.

Everything I've heard said Bundy has looked good and been impressive?

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[Redskins Rick]

Everything I've heard said Bundy has looked good and been impressive?

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And Brundy did look good, and just got the win.

[Bmorebirds24]

And Brundy did look good, and just got the win.

That's what I like to hear.

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[Aristotelian]

Miguel 4 IP, 2 ER, 4H, 1 BB, 1 K vs the Yankees.

Despaigne 3 IP, 0 ER, 1 H, 0 BB, 0 K.

Good week for pretty much all the 5th starter candidates. Updating their total spring stats:

Miguel: 1-3, 14.90 9.2 IP, 22 H, 16 ER, 3 HR 5 BB, 4 K

Worley: 0-1, 6.75 9.1 IP, 13 H, 7 ER, 2 HR 1 BB, 6 K

Despaigne: 0-0, 5.91 10.2 IP, 14 H 7 ER, 1 HR 3 BB, 1 K

Wright: 1-1, 5.40 11.2 IP, 14 H 7 ER, 0 HR 3 BB, 12 K

Wilson: 0-0, 2.89 9.1 IP, 11 H, 4 ER, 1 HR 0 BB, 6 K

Wilson has the lowest ERA and BB/9, Wright has the highest K/9, Despaigne has 1 K in 10.2 IP. Miguel has the best track record, but the worst spring numbers. Still hard to pick a guy out of this bunch.