Will the fans show?

[BergerKing]

Why did the Braves build a new stadium if being in the city is the best place to be?

Let me be clear I have never been to Atlanta in my life and have no knowledge of the city.

This after work crowd you speak of must not be going to games in Baltimore.

The Braves got into a pissing match with the city of Atlanta. Atlanta was supposed to build a better transportation system and build up the general area and they never did. The Braves took this as an opportunity to leave and build there dream area. They are kind doing what the Nats are doing. Building up an entire experience outside of just the actual ballpark and baseball game.

[TouchemAll]

Perception does matter - Every one of my friends that had attended O's games each year before the Baltimore riots has avoided OPACY like the plague not one has attended a game this year, or has a desire to any time soon.

Sad but true...

[schittenden]

I grew up as a huge roller coaster nerd ("enthusiast") and I followed the industry pretty well. Disney is about the ONLY park chain that does families well and profitably. And it draws in people of all ages. It probably makes money on families because its about the ONLY thing that parents will spend money on their kids for. Most of the parks that make any money have a balance of families with older kids and... whatever they called people in their 20's before they called them Millennials.

And before people say that I was deprived of a childhood, no I was an only child and my parents took my with them when they traveled all across the country, unlike most of my friends who went to Ocean City every year. My parents did love coupons though.

And somebody else had mentioned people under the age of 25 living in their parents basement. Yes... and they're making about 85% of the salary of somebody with kids. How do you think that they can afford to throw money around like they do? Maybe you should turn off Fox News and realize that there are age discrimination lawsuits out there that show how age usually favors those who are younger in the workforce.

You just make that 85% figure up? I don't watch Fox News, but I do know that older cohorts control much discretionary spending. Discretionary spending tends to be highest in middle age (say 35-50). The kids in their parent's basement aren't making 85% of the salary. What they do make is eaten up in large part with student loan payments.

Here's one source among many:

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/income-inequality-married-couples-kids-make-average-107054

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[LookitsPuck]

o

Somewhat similar to John Lennon being misquoted in 1966.

When he said that the Beatles were bigger than Jesus, he meant literally ........ Lennon was 5'11", while Jesus was 5'9".

He wasn't misquoted. And that is incorrect. Unless you're being sarcastic (I have a hard time telling with you sometimes). Lennon actually said:

Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that; I'm right and I'll be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first?rock 'n' roll or Christianity. Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me.[2][7]

[atomic]

I grew up as a huge roller coaster nerd ("enthusiast") and I followed the industry pretty well. Disney is about the ONLY park chain that does families well and profitably. And it draws in people of all ages. It probably makes money on families because its about the ONLY thing that parents will spend money on their kids for. Most of the parks that make any money have a balance of families with older kids and... whatever they called people in their 20's before they called them Millennials.

And before people say that I was deprived of a childhood, no I was an only child and my parents took my with them when they traveled all across the country, unlike most of my friends who went to Ocean City every year. My parents did love coupons though.

And somebody else had mentioned people under the age of 25 living in their parents basement. Yes... and they're making about 85% of the salary of somebody with kids. How do you think that they can afford to throw money around like they do? Maybe you should turn off Fox News and realize that there are age discrimination lawsuits out there that show how age usually favors those who are younger in the workforce.

Also we go to Dutch Wonderland about once a month and that is just families with kids and their is Sesame Place. I don't understand your negative family thing. Last Orioles game I went to I was in the club level and almost every person on that level had a kid under 6 with them. Those tend to be the more expensive seats and everyone was getting concessions delivered to them.

Companies want young employees so they can work them long hours and not pay them anything. 25 year olds don't get 85 percent of older workers salary. That is ridiculous. Just compare prices of say an Arcade Fire ticket to a Paul McCartney ticket and you can see older people have more money. When I was 25 years old I went to a lot of games but sat in the bleachers as that is all I could afford.

[OFFNY]

o

Somewhat similar to John Lennon being misquoted in 1966.

When he said that the Beatles were bigger than Jesus, he meant literally ........ Lennon was 5'11", while Jesus was 5'9".

He wasn't misquoted. And that is incorrect. Unless you're being sarcastic (I have a hard time telling with you sometimes). Lennon actually said:

o

For anybody that is at all familiar with that whole situation, it's pretty hard to miss my sarcasm about it.

Like Malike, I don't use the emotions for a dry sense of humor, because that would make the dry humor wet.

Here's another take on it:

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[Trackmaster]

The Braves got into a pissing match with the city of Atlanta. Atlanta was supposed to build a better transportation system and build up the general area and they never did. The Braves took this as an opportunity to leave and build there dream area. They are kind doing what the Nats are doing. Building up an entire experience outside of just the actual ballpark and baseball game.

This sounds like a pretty suburban board, and I know that a lot of people still have the mentality that the suburbs are where the rich people live like they did 20 years ago, but really the cities are where the professionals are going now, and where the cost of land and housing is getting out of control (not necessarily Baltimore, its still dirt cheap there). But I think that Atlanta has been gentrifying too. Its possible that the land might have been too expensive for a baseball park in an area nice enough for tourists.

Developers saw the land that they would have given them, and saw stacks of $100 bills in the form of luxury 25 story condo high rises close to high paying jobs in the city with artisan cheese shops and wine bars.

[Natty]

How are ticket sales this year, compared to the last few years? The team is better this year.

[Trackmaster]

Sorry, point being that Atlanta didn't want to give them expensive land, while the land in suburbia is worth next to nothing. So it makes sense to put something that sprawling there.

[atomic]

This sounds like a pretty suburban board, and I know that a lot of people still have the mentality that the suburbs are where the rich people live like they did 20 years ago, but really the cities are where the professionals are going now, and where the cost of land and housing is getting out of control (not necessarily Baltimore, its still dirt cheap there). But I think that Atlanta has been gentrifying too. Its possible that the land might have been too expensive for a baseball park in an area nice enough for tourists.

Developers saw the land that they would have given them, and saw stacks of $100 bills in the form of luxury 25 story condo high rises close to high paying jobs in the city with artisan cheese shops and wine bars.

Five years ago i spent a week in Atlanta the Northern Suburbs looked pretty wealthy the downtown area not so much. Really other than Coca Cola World there was not much down there. Downtown pretty deserted on the weekend.

[schittenden]

This sounds like a pretty suburban board, and I know that a lot of people still have the mentality that the suburbs are where the rich people live like they did 20 years ago, but really the cities are where the professionals are going now, and where the cost of land and housing is getting out of control (not necessarily Baltimore, its still dirt cheap there). But I think that Atlanta has been gentrifying too. Its possible that the land might have been too expensive for a baseball park in an area nice enough for tourists.

Developers saw the land that they would have given them, and saw stacks of $100 bills in the form of luxury 25 story condo high rises close to high paying jobs in the city with artisan cheese shops and wine bars.

Young professionals are living in the cities. People with kids either live in the suburbs or they have to pay for private school. If you look at it, the wealthiest counties are almost all suburban counties right outside of major cities. Several of DC's VA suburban counties are in the top 5 richest counties in the nation. Howard County and Montgomery County are in the top 20 in the nation.

[weams]

Young professionals are living in the cities. People with kids either live in the suburbs or they have to pay for private school. If you look at it, the wealthiest counties are almost all suburban counties right outside of major cities. Several of DC's VA suburban counties are in the top 5 richest counties in the nation. Howard County and Montgomery County are in the top 20 in the nation.

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Buggles to ya.

[schittenden]

Sorry, point being that Atlanta didn't want to give them expensive land, while the land in suburbia is worth next to nothing. So it makes sense to put something that sprawling there.

Also, the area where they are building the new stadium is smack dab in the richest part of the Atlanta metro area.

[Redskins Rick]

Did we lose anyone because of money besides Mussina? One guy in 19 years? I might be missing someone but I don't remember us losing to many stars because of money.

Has anybody been to a Rays game this year?

Not too many have!

[eddie83]

This sounds like a pretty suburban board, and I know that a lot of people still have the mentality that the suburbs are where the rich people live like they did 20 years ago, but really the cities are where the professionals are going now, and where the cost of land and housing is getting out of control (not necessarily Baltimore, its still dirt cheap there). But I think that Atlanta has been gentrifying too. Its possible that the land might have been too expensive for a baseball park in an area nice enough for tourists.

Developers saw the land that they would have given them, and saw stacks of $100 bills in the form of luxury 25 story condo high rises close to high paying jobs in the city with artisan cheese shops and wine bars.

Is this the case in Baltimore?

Are the Orioles getting these young professionals to the ballpark?