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7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think a deal could have been reached.

But the Orioles don't seem interested in locking up guys before their arbitration years start for some reason.

They apparently had some pretty serious talks one or two times in past offseasons.    But there's no information on what parameters were discussed.  There is plenty of time this offseason to discuss it again, but the O's really should bring the issue to a head and then act accordingly.   

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11 minutes ago, Frobby said:

They apparently had some pretty serious talks one or two times in past offseasons.    But there's no information on what parameters were discussed.  There is plenty of time this offseason to discuss it again, but the O's really should bring the issue to a head and then act accordingly.   

Who is the last guy they extended pre-arbitraton?

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42 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think a deal could have been reached.

But the Orioles don't seem interested in locking up guys before their arbitration years start for some reason.

Because they don't like giving out long term deals on are very, very leery of injury risk.

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1 hour ago, epic said:

Dan essentially just told us Manny is too expensive to keep long-term. So I guess we know what the plan is!

Dan told us that he would address extension of current players when they talk to them about their arbitration.  So maybe February.   Dan is a little busy right now trying to build a team for 2017 and building depth at AAA.    I am not saying that Dan will extend anyone.  Just that the time for that is later in the off season.

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11 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Dan told us that he would address extension of current players when they talk to them about their arbitration.  So maybe February.   Dan is a little busy right now trying to build a team for 2017 and building depth at AAA.    I am not saying that Dan will extend anyone.  Just that the time for that is later in the off season.

Yep. Much ado about nothing.

I thought Tillman should have been resigned last year. I think signing Manny LT is a real long shot. We will see.

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

You might be overrating what we'd get for Britton.   Andrew Miller, who has two more years under team control at a salary that now seems pretty reasonable (with 20/20 hindsight), brought back four prospects, but only one guy who was really highly rated (Clint Frazier, who is a top 50ish guy).   Britton has less service time remaining than Miller did at the time of his trade, and will be more expensive.    

Clint Frazier is a top 20-25 guy. Justus Sheffield is also a top 75-100 type guy.

That's a pretty damn nice couple of prospects at the top of that deal. Frazier is going to be a stud middle of the order bat for the Yankees for the next 10-12 years too ans is damn near ready.

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19 minutes ago, ISU94 said:

Clint Frazier is a top 20-25 guy. Justus Sheffield is also a top 75-100 type guy.

That's a pretty damn nice couple of prospects at the top of that deal. Frazier is going to be a stud middle of the order bat for the Yankees for the next 10-12 years too ans is damn near ready.

The Yankees got a top 50 guy and top 100 guy for Chapman who had just three months left on his contract.  I think they can get the same deal now then what they can get at the deadline if they are out of it,

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9 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

The Yankees got a top 50 guy and top 100 guy for Chapman who had just three months left on his contract.  I think they can get the same deal now then what they can get at the deadline if they are out of it,

Except we'll probably be close enough not to sell off at the deadline..

We'll continue year after year not being poor enough to sell at the deadline before all of our top assets are free agents and we have another decade of rebuilding. 

I'd much rather just get this done this offseason. Once the season starts unless something crazy happens Britton isn't going anywhere.

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7 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Which would be a good thing.

Honestly, no it wouldn't. 

I want to win as much as anyone. I also want to have a future past a couple years from now and not have to watch a terrible product for as long of a drought as we went through before. I love Britton but honestly that is one move I really want to see get done this offseason. He could get us 2-3 prominent prospects with at least one of them likely being really close. We know we aren't going to lock up Britton long-term. That guy is going to get PAID. We have Machado, Schoop, Tillman, etc. etc. coming up and it's already looking like a possible long shot on a couple of them.

Edit: Obviously it would be great to be in contention, but if we keep delaying dealing one of these guys that could seriously help the future of this franchise just means we'll end up getting these comp picks that ultimately will do very little compared to what we could get in a package.

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37 minutes ago, ISU94 said:

Honestly, no it wouldn't. 

I want to win as much as anyone. I also want to have a future past a couple years from now and not have to watch a terrible product for as long of a drought as we went through before. I love Britton but honestly that is one move I really want to see get done this offseason. He could get us 2-3 prominent prospects with at least one of them likely being really close. We know we aren't going to lock up Britton long-term. That guy is going to get PAID. We have Machado, Schoop, Tillman, etc. etc. coming up and it's already looking like a possible long shot on a couple of them.

Edit: Obviously it would be great to be in contention, but if we keep delaying dealing one of these guys that could seriously help the future of this franchise just means we'll end up getting these comp picks that ultimately will do very little compared to what we could get in a package.

The argument makes no sense. You want to lose in order to win. Why not just win now when we have the chance? 

We can still get plenty for Britton after the all star break this year, in the offseason next year, or even at the all star break next year. There is absolutely no reason to throw in the towel in December after we made it to the wild card and both teams ahead of us are losing their best players.

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