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Orioles Select RF Aneury Tavarez From Boston and LF Anthony Santander from Cleveland


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19 hours ago, RZNJ said:

From MLB about Santander:

 

Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 45 | Arm: 55 | Defense: 45 | Overall: 45

Signed for $385,000 out of Venezuela in 2011, Santander was holding his own at age 18 in the Class A Midwest League in '13 before a right elbow injury derailed his season and cost him part of the subsequent year. Fully healthy in 2016, Santander emerged was one of the more improved players in the Indians' system behind a breakout performance in the Class A Advanced Carolina League, where he finished first in the circuit in doubles (42), second in runs scored (90), third in hits (145), home runs (20) and RBIs (95) and fourth in OPS (.862).

Santander didn't begin switch hitting until 2010, but he took to it quickly and has made steady progress as he's moved up the ladder. A consistent hitter from the left side of the plate who possesses above-average raw power and makes hard contact to all fields, Santander is more pull-oriented and exhibits greater swing-and-miss tendencies as a right-handed hitter, although he does draw his share of walks from both sides.

Defensively, Santander has spent much of his time in left field, where his athleticism, speed and arm are all strengths. He's also proved to be a capable first baseman and receives high marks for his picking skills despite relatively limited experience at the position.

 

Sounds interesting.    The one red flag is that with all this, he's still only rated their 30th best prospect.

The last time we chose a hitter who hadn't advanced beyond high A, that player was Jose Bautista.   Unfortunately, he was too raw to hold on to.    

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3 hours ago, Frobby said:

The last time we chose a hitter who hadn't advanced beyond high A, that player was Jose Bautista.   Unfortunately, he was too raw to hold on to.    

Well, I mean, it would have been hard to wait 6 years for him... That's how long it took for him to become Jose Bautista.

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22 hours ago, PaulFolk said:

That would just be kicking the can down the road another year. He has to be on the active roster for at least 90 days or he doesn't fulfill the Rule 5 requirements and they'd have to carry him for the entire 2018 season as well.

Maybe that's the idea.  The tear down is coming...

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3 hours ago, xian4 said:

Tavares has carried on his successful breakout season inDouble AA into winter ball, which is a very good sign

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/baseball-america-prospect-report/#4Vxb02FhzkoyKE2B.97

Tavares is killing it in winter ball.  Seems a lot like Rickard last year.  Breakout year, then big winter league performance.  

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=bal

Also if anyone cares, MLBpipeline just updated their top 30 for the O's and Santander is #14 and Tavarez is #30.  Also Adam Walker is #19. New write- ups on those guys too.   

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=bal

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30 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Tavares is killing it in winter ball.  Seems a lot like Rickard last year.  Breakout year, then big winter league performance.  

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=bal

Also if anyone cares, MLBpipeline just updated their top 30 for the O's and Santander is #14 and Tavarez is #30.  Also Adam Walker is #19. New write- ups on those guys too.   

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=bal

Thanks for the updates.  Those rankings sound about right to me.  I wouldn't say Tavares is killing it, but he's doing solidly with a .765 OPS.  He's going to have to do real well in ST to make the team.  Santander is much more interesting, imo.  

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Rickard 2015 (24) Never played above A+ ball previously

AA(EL)- 282 PA .322/.420/.479/.899

AAA(IL)- 104 PA .360/.437/.472/.909

Dominican WL- 217 PA .277/.344/.450/.794

Tavarez 2016 (24) 

AA(EL)- 425 PA  

.335 .379 .506 .886

AAA- Only 16 PA

Dominican WL- 116 PA .302/.359/.405/.769

Just for comparisons sake.  Tavarez lacks the AAA AB's Rickard had but had been in AA/AAA in 2015 some.  Seems like everyone was high on Rickard last year and then really down on Tavarez this year.  To me, it seems like they are on similar paths.  Not that Rickard is great or anything, but they could make for a cheap, young platoon in LF in 2018.  

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1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Rickard 2015 (24) Never played above A+ ball previously

AA(EL)- 282 PA .322/.420/.479/.899

AAA(IL)- 104 PA .360/.437/.472/.909

Dominican WL- 217 PA .277/.344/.450/.794

Tavarez 2016 (24) 

AA(EL)- 425 PA  

.335 .379 .506 .886

AAA- Only 16 PA

Dominican WL- 116 PA .302/.359/.405/.769

Just for comparisons sake.  Tavarez lacks the AAA AB's Rickard had but had been in AA/AAA in 2015 some.  Seems like everyone was high on Rickard last year and then really down on Tavarez this year.  To me, it seems like they are on similar paths.  Not that Rickard is great or anything, but they could make for a cheap, young platoon in LF in 2018.  

Rickard's rather blasé performance after April ended may have jaded some folks going forward.

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On Tavares, after Ed Encina said he had stolen 20 of 31 bases, the Baysox replied, "But he was caught stealing in both his attempts against Chance Sisco and the Baysox." Nice!

Bob. You just post the link now. The board software does the rest.

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On 12/9/2016 at 5:10 AM, Frobby said:

The last time we chose a hitter who hadn't advanced beyond high A, that player was Jose Bautista.   Unfortunately, he was too raw to hold on to.    

 

23 hours ago, FlipTheBird said:

Well, I mean, it would have been hard to wait 6 years for him... That's how long it took for him to become Jose Bautista.

Yes, I agree.    I think it will be equally hard this time, even if Santander may blossom into a good major league hitter someday.   That was my point.  

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21 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Tavares is killing it in winter ball.  Seems a lot like Rickard last year.  Breakout year, then big winter league performance.  

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=bal

Also if anyone cares, MLBpipeline just updated their top 30 for the O's and Santander is #14 and Tavarez is #30.  Also Adam Walker is #19. New write- ups on those guys too.   

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=bal

I seen the prospect list yesterday and wasn't really sure how to take it. I know our system overall is pretty bad, but is it that bad that those three are already in the top 30?

I know about Walker and his power potential, but not very familiar  with the other two. I guess with that being said I'm not really high on anyone ranked below them besides Brian Gonzalez and Alex Wells.

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On 12/8/2016 at 5:15 PM, weams said:

With labrum surgery.  He'd have to. In fact, he'll be able to go 60 day DL.

 

It's my understanding that the player must spend at least 90 days on the active roster of the club that drafted him.    It appears that if the player doesn't accumulate the entire 90 days in the year he's drafted, he can begin the next year on the active roster and complete his time then.   But in any event, the team can't just park Santander on the 60-day DL for the majority of the seasons and then option him to the minors at the beginning of next season.  

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12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It's my understanding that the player must spend at least 90 days on the active roster of the club that drafted him.    It appears that if the player doesn't accumulate the entire 90 days in the year he's drafted, he can begin the next year on the active roster and complete his time then.   But in any event, the team can't just park Santander on the 60-day DL for the majority of the seasons and then option him to the minors at the beginning of next season.  

You are absolutely correct. He can be activated at any time during the season, and rehabbed in the minors at any time as well. September games on an expanded roster count towards time and next season can be used to fulfill the unearned days on the MLB roster. He would clog a 40 man slot over the off season. 

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22 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Anyone else hate the Rule 5 draft?  Each year we have a few threads on the fringe minor leaguers or former prospects that are headed towards bust-dom and how we can justify keeping them on the big league roster all year next year.  

It's a protection against the Yankees and Red Sox. Actually.

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