Darren O'Day Expects A Happy, Healthy 2017

[Redskins Rick]

11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He was pretty average last year.

His WAR was only .6 for last season, but he was also hurt and spent time on the DL and only got into half of his normal average.

Not sure, a 3.77 ERA, with 3 saves for a setup man is average.

He has only two sub 2.0 WAR years, racking up 4 straight with the Birds.

I suspect he gets some innings under his belt and his strength back. he will be just fine.

 

[Frobby]

47 minutes ago, LA2 said:

For what we offered or what the Braves did?

I think he means the 2009 Markakis deal.   

[Frobby]

I don't want to make too many excuses for O'Day's performance yesterday, but look at this pitch f/x chart of Holliday's leadoff walk.   The ump really gave him nothing to work with yesterday:

[Can_of_corn]

6 hours ago, Frobby said:

I think he means the 2009 Markakis deal.   

Yes the deal Markakis signed with the O's.

I was not in favor of the deal Markakis didn't sign with the O's.

[Can_of_corn]

7 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

His WAR was only .6 for last season, but he was also hurt and spent time on the DL and only got into half of his normal average.

Not sure, a 3.77 ERA, with 3 saves for a setup man is average.

He has only two sub 2.0 WAR years, racking up 4 straight with the Birds.

I suspect he gets some innings under his belt and his strength back. he will be just fine.

 

I was also looking at ERA+ and FIP.

And injuries are part of the reason I don't like signing players over 30 to long term deals.

[Can_of_corn]

7 hours ago, webbrick2010 said:

Eventually dedicating so much payroll to non-performing/under-performing veterans past their prime will bury this team below .500

I have bee amazed that Buck has somehow won with the few younger performing players that we have

It is the eventually part that Dan is banking on. 

[OFFNY]

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Darren O'Day on His Struggles in the Ninth

(By Steve Melewski)

http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2017/04/darren-oday-on-his-struggles-in-the-ninth-and-more-clubhouse-quotes.html

 

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[24fps]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I don't want to make too many excuses for O'Day's performance yesterday, but look at this pitch f/x chart of Holliday's leadoff walk.   The ump really gave him nothing to work with yesterday:

I thought so to when I was watching on replay and you could see that he was frustrated after consistently hitting the same spot and still not getting the call.  I thought his performance wasn't anything special, but a lot better than some here are giving him credit for.

[Frobby]

To his credit, O'Day blamed himself for not being able to adjust to the umpire's strike zone.  

[Redskins Rick]

14 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I was also looking at ERA+ and FIP.

And injuries are part of the reason I don't like signing players over 30 to long term deals.

I dont think O'Day has shown himself to be injury prone, I think its very likely he will bounce back and earn his money.

[Redskins Rick]

12 hours ago, Frobby said:

To his credit, O'Day blamed himself for not being able to adjust to the umpire's strike zone.  

I agree, the umps were having a lousy day all over the place, you could tell Buck was pretty disgusted much of the game.

 

[CheeryO]

On 4/10/2017 at 2:16 PM, Can_of_corn said:

Yes the deal Markakis signed with the O's.

I was not in favor of the deal Markakis didn't sign with the O's.

In retrospect it looks like the O's made a mistake letting Markakis go.  He's been solid with the Braves and is blazing so far this season.  

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, CheeryO said:

In retrospect it looks like the O's made a mistake letting Markakis go.  He's been solid with the Braves and is blazing so far this season.  

I wouldn't have signed Cruz either.

Sometimes you get them wrong.  You go in with a good process and hope for the best.

[CheeryO]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I wouldn't have signed Cruz either.

Sometimes you get them wrong.  You go in with a good process and hope for the best.

Also, unless you're the Yankees or the Dodgers you can only pay so many players an 8 figure salary.  

[MDtransplant757]

30 minutes ago, CheeryO said:

In retrospect it looks like the O's made a mistake letting Markakis go.  He's been solid with the Braves and is blazing so far this season.  

It wasn't even in retrospect. I thought it was stupid to let him go. Granted, having Smith feels like having Markakis, but he's not the same. Would love to somehow get him back from Atlanta if possible.