Orioles Officially sign Catcher Welington Castillo

[25 Nuggets]

4 minutes ago, bobmc said:

Yeah - Wel wanted more than we offered.  I still think they will overpay for Wiety and keep core intact.  Whatevs!

Well the good news is he was a two win player last year despite having one of his worst years offensively.  He really is at or near the top of a weak FA catcher crop.

There is a price where I would be happy to have him back.

[weams]

29 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

So do you think this still happens this week, whoever it is?

I was just listening to what Dan said. I really would have no way of knowing.  But sure, I would think that is the plan. 

[25 Nuggets]

36 minutes ago, weams said:

I was just listening to what Dan said. I really would have no way of knowing.  But sure, I would think that is the plan. 

I really hope you're right.  I'd like for the team to only have to worry about RF past the holidays.

[Ruzious]

From the article in mlbtraderumors.com, it doesn't sound likely at all that Castillo's signing with the O's.  

[sportsfan8703]

10 hours ago, El Gordo said:

I don't see the urgency, we still have Avilla, Soto, Hundley, Ianetta, Suzuki,  Salty, and Wieters as options.

True.  Even though we tried with Castillo, we're still going to have to wait until MW signs.  Just what I'm reading into this is that Castillo wants 3/21 and MW wants 4/48.  We're probably close with both on the yearly salary but they both probably want one more year than what we're offering.  

[Tony-OH]

3 hours ago, 25 Nuggets said:

I really hope you're right.  I'd like for the team to only have to worry about RF past the holidays.

Lol. I'd like to have a vacation bungalow in Bora Bora, and I've got more of a chance of that happening than Duquette changing the way he operates in the off season. 

[crawjo]

42 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

True.  Even though we tried with Castillo, we're still going to have to wait until MW signs.  Just what I'm reading into this is that Castillo wants 3/21 and MW wants 4/48.  We're probably close with both on the yearly salary but they both probably want one more year than what we're offering.  

With Sisco coming up by 2018 I would think we would want to limit any contract we offer this year to 2 years, tops. Bringing back Wieters for three years or more is not something I would be in favor of. 

[Moose Milligan]

Ugh, what a bunch of dunces.  I've intentionally not paid close attention this offseason because....well, the offseason sucks pretty much every year.  Everyone starts theirs shortly after the World Series ends but the Orioles fart around until it's time to show up to Spring Training to do anything worthwhile.  Worthwhile being used loosely.

My prediction is that Wieters goes somewhere, Castillo signs somewhere else right after and we're left out in the cold.  

Meanwhile we're ALL OVER the Rule 5 guys.  What game changers they'll be for us.  The Winter Meetings for the Orioles are literally figuring out what dumb Rule 5 guy we'll have to have all year.  

Just saw that we re-signed Logan Ondrusek.  Awesome.  

[TouchemAll]

18 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Ugh, what a bunch of dunces.  I've intentionally not paid close attention this offseason because....well, the offseason sucks pretty much every year.  Everyone starts theirs shortly after the World Series ends but the Orioles fart around until it's time to show up to Spring Training to do anything worthwhile.  Worthwhile being used loosely.

My prediction is that Wieters goes somewhere, Castillo signs somewhere else right after and we're left out in the cold.  

Meanwhile we're ALL OVER the Rule 5 guys.  What game changers they'll be for us.  The Winter Meetings for the Orioles are literally figuring out what dumb Rule 5 guy we'll have to have all year.  

Just saw that we re-signed Logan Ondrusek.  Awesome.  

Sadly your most likely DEAD ON...

[Frobby]

51 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Ugh, what a bunch of dunces.  I've intentionally not paid close attention this offseason because....well, the offseason sucks pretty much every year.  Everyone starts theirs shortly after the World Series ends but the Orioles fart around until it's time to show up to Spring Training to do anything worthwhile.  Worthwhile being used loosely.

My prediction is that Wieters goes somewhere, Castillo signs somewhere else right after and we're left out in the cold.  

Meanwhile we're ALL OVER the Rule 5 guys.  What game changers they'll be for us.  The Winter Meetings for the Orioles are literally figuring out what dumb Rule 5 guy we'll have to have all year.  

Just saw that we re-signed Logan Ondrusek.  Awesome.  

Seems to me Duquette's offseason tactics have worked out pretty well over the last five years.   I can criticize individual moves, but the end results have been pretty good.   And this year's FA class is mostly uninspiring and not well-matched to our needs, with a few exceptions.

[Tony-OH]

32 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Seems to me Duquette's offseason tactics have worked out pretty well over the last five years.   I can criticize individual moves, but the end results have been pretty good.   And this year's FA class is mostly uninspiring and not well-matched to our needs, with a few exceptions.

But it's a lot easier to just say Duquette is a dunce and destroying interest in baseball in Baltimore. You know, like making the playoffs 60% of the time after 14 years of sub .500 baseball. Like you, I have questioned plenty of his moves and he's not perfect by any sense of the word, but this offseason has been similar to just about every offseason since he got here. Remember when he acquired Trumbo and some people were like, "What are you doing paying that loser $9 million?" 

Honestly, in my estimation Duquette overvalues his own major league players and I'd like to see him be more aggressive in creating a lineup less one dimensional, but if anyone thought this offseason was going to be a game changer I'm not sure why? The team needs OBP, better outfield defense and a catcher, who at the very least will be able to platoon/split time with Joseph. 

[millertime]

16 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Seems to me Duquette's offseason tactics have worked out pretty well over the last five years.   I can criticize individual moves, but the end results have been pretty good.   And this year's FA class is mostly uninspiring and not well-matched to our needs, with a few exceptions.

I believe that "luck" has played a huge roll in Duquette's offseasons working out and luck runs out eventually.  I agree that the FA class this offseason has been pretty uninspiring but that doesn't mean the team couldn't have been improved via trades.  I say this every year but to me, you have to a plan and stick to it and I don't feel that Duquette has a plan (again...just my opinion).  I believe his "wait and see" approach every year is dangerous because eventually it won't work out.  I also agree with Moose's take on the O's off-season 100%.  It's one thing to not want to spend $20M on a single player but if you are creative, you can absolutely improve the team without having to do that and it doesn't seem like we are creative.  Seems as though the Winter Meetings every year (at least for the O's), is just for the Rule 5 Draft.

[fearthenoodle]

Why do people think the off-season ends when the Winter Meetings end?

[El Gordo]

Yes but it's much better to win in the off season than in the on season.

[El Gordo]

13 minutes ago, millertime said:

I believe that "luck" has played a huge roll in Duquette's offseasons working out and luck runs out eventually.  I agree that the FA class this offseason has been pretty uninspiring but that doesn't mean the team couldn't have been improved via trades.  I say this every year but to me, you have to a plan and stick to it and I don't feel that Duquette has a plan (again...just my opinion).  I believe his "wait and see" approach every year is dangerous because eventually it won't work out.  I also agree with Moose's take on the O's off-season 100%.  It's one thing to not want to spend $20M on a single player but if you are creative, you can absolutely improve the team without having to do that and it doesn't seem like we are creative.  Seems as though the Winter Meetings every year (at least for the O's), is just for the Rule 5 Draft.

Care to give us some examples of your creativity?