Orioles Officially sign Catcher Welington Castillo

[Roll Tide]

7 minutes ago, weams said:

Heyman 

 

Castillo gets 6M in '17, option is for 7M

 

Seems like a good move

[sportsfan8703]

I could see MW going to ATL.  That's where all ex O's end up.  Wallace, Chiti, Markakis, Jim Johnson, Chaz Roe.  

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

I could see MW going to ATL.  That's where all ex O's end up.  Wallace, Chiti, Markakis, Jim Johnson, Chaz Roe.  

So you have Manny signing there in a couple of years? 

[weams]

4 minutes ago, nevadaO said:

 

 

I do think the Orioles aversion to opt-outs is limited to pick attached  bogeys.

 

[crawjo]

11 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Over his career he has rated toward the very bottom in both pitch framing and sequencing.  So worse than Wieters in two areas the OH had the most issue with.

Last year Castillo was better than Wieters at pitch-framing.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

I do think the Orioles aversion to opt-outs is limited to pick attached  bogeys.

 

I think their aversion to opt-outs is open to some wiggle room.

[Tony-OH]

Just now, Frobby said:

Let me ask a question: if Player A is non-tendered by his team when he could be retained for about $6 mm, and then is signed by another team to a one-year deal with a player option for a second year, and Player B ends up signing a 2-3 year deal at about double the annual salary of the other guy, do you really expect them to have equal production?    I realize their stats have been relatively close, but I don't think other GM's are that stupid.    I think Castillo adequately fills the hole left by Wieters, but he is a downgrade IMO.

He might be, but there is a potential for him to be better than Wieters as well and at the significant savings, this looks like a great deal for the Orioles.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, crawjo said:

Last year Castillo was better than Wieters at pitch-framing.

Yes I know.

What would you rather use, more data or less data?

Hopefully he does a great job next year.

[sportsfan8703]

Let's stop playing around and just go get Edwin Encarnacion.  He's a superior player to Trumbo.  4/90 vs. 4/75 in salary demands/market.  Sign a guy like Bourne and call it an offseason.  

[crawjo]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Yes I know.

What would you rather use, more data or less data?

Hopefully he does a great job next year.

I'm not convinced he's a worse defender than Wieters, who I think was overrated as a defender his entire time here. 

[TouchemAll]

18 minutes ago, dan-O said:

It's basically Wieters-esque production on a 1 year, for likely less money, and not having to deal with Boras. What's not to like?

Yep...

[sportsfan8703]

I don't think we care about pitch framing too much.  Homers and CS% are first and foremost.  If Castillo had highly respected pitch framing abilities he wouldn't be on the market and definitely wouldn't be here for 1/6 or 2/13.  

[Number5]

3 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Got it ,,,,,I said okay 

Can you replace Manny with a sandwich pick?

Apparently, you don't got it.  Your question clearly shows that you didn't read what I posted.  Again, please read the first thirteen words of my post.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, crawjo said:

I'm not convinced he's a worse defender than Wieters, who I think was overrated as a defender his entire time here. 

To include 2011 when he won the Fielding Bible award?

I can't agree with you there, he had a monster year on defense.

Of course it has been downhill ever since.

[Frobby]

5 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

He might be, but there is a potential for him to be better than Wieters as well and at the significant savings, this looks like a great deal for the Orioles.

I'm not complaining about the deal.   It makes sense to me given the likely disparity in pay and length of commitment, especially with Sisco on the horizon.