How Much Will It Take To Sign Manny Long Term?

[Frobby]

16 minutes ago, esmd said:

Which was my point in the first place.  You can have the best player in the game, but if you can't afford (or aren't good enough) to put 24 other good players around him, you're not going to win.  For the Angels, the issue is their other bad contracts and injuries.  For the Orioles, it's that Machado at $35M would take up 21% of their payroll, assuming a 160M payroll, which I think is probably towards the upper end of what they can afford.  One player taking up 21% of your payroll just isn't smart management.  Shoot, even if they went to 200M, it would 17.5%.  Still not good management.  In short, the Orioles cannot afford Manny at 35M, which he's likely to get from someone else.  So the best move, IMO, is to trade him for as many young players/prospects as you can get.  MacPhail set us up for success with the Bedard trade, the thing that needs to happen is for DD to have a similar result by trading Manny.

I don't know that I'd have a problem with one player taking up 21% of the payroll, if that team had a decent number of very productive players who were either pre-arb or in their arb years and had some good young talent coming up through its system.   Granted, the Orioles are not in that situation.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I don't know that I'd have a problem with one player taking up 21% of the payroll, if that team had a decent number of very productive players who were either pre-arb or in their arb years and had some good young talent coming up through its system.   Granted, the Orioles are not in that situation.

I'd rather have Machado than Davis and Jones for 2017.

[Frobby]

13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd rather have Machado than Davis and Jones for 2017.

I'd rather have all three -- and we do!

This is a subject I'm pretty torn on.      Manny's worth $300+ mm, and I love watching him play.    I don't think trading him for two players making half as much would really get us anywhere, but if we won't be competitive with him, then we'd be better off trading him for several good prospects.    So, it really depends on how the rest of the team is doing.     

[Frobby]

Fangraphs has an article up about how none of the young superstars have signed extensions in the last couple of years: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-possible-extinction-of-the-early-career-superstar-extension/

[Bahama O's Fan]

I still say I would put 10/300 in front of him now