Issues with Brady?

[Can_of_corn]

This could turn out to be something similar.

 

 

[Redskins Rick]

17 minutes ago, FlipTheBird said:

This much is true. And worth far more of a story than Brady Anderson's role. Why have the O's run through pitching coaches so much the last few years? Is it Buck? Is it from further up on high?

I thought that was the trend around the league, normally pitching coaches don't stick around long term.

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

The O's need more employees like Brady.  He does everything he can to make the O's better.  He helps with so many things from strength and conditioning in the offseason to roving hitting instructor and gives advice for pitchers.  Maybe he can bring in a new "Oriole Way" like when Cal Sr. was here.  If anything, the O's need more guys like Brady and less me-first guys like Wieters. 

I can't believe the grief Wieters is getting in this thread.    The guy never did a single selfish thing while he was here that I can recall.   And his comments in this article are very mild.      

[Redskins Rick]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I can't believe the grief Wieters is getting in this thread.    The guy never did a single selfish thing while he was here that I can recall.   And his comments in this article are very mild.      

I agree and I never have got how so many posters could be so critical of the man. Granted he wasn't the switch hitting Johnny Bench as advertised, but MW had a good run here.

[Dark Helmet]

6 hours ago, Es4M11 said:

Matt Wieters can thank himself for no longer being an Oriole. He made his bed, and now he can lie in it. I'd bet Boras had little to do with Matt's decision to seek more money - Boras is just the tool Matt used to get what he wanted. Can we retire this lame argument that Boras decides where players go? It's not supported by facts.

I'd be shocked to find out Wieters did not receive at least the same offer Castillo did. If Wieters wanted to be in Baltimore so bad, he could have instructed Boras to make it happen.

Why hire an agent then? I never said Boras instructed Matt where to go. Don't put words in my mouth. 

You don't know what went on behind the scenes no more than I do. And your opinion can't be back up by facts either.

[JohnD]

Coaches have their own lockers/office now.  Separate from the clubhouse.

i thought this was a fascinating article free of any supposedly agenda.  It simply highlighted an unusual arrangement and the tension that has resulted.

For the most part I think Anderson has been a big benefit and credit the Os for doing something different and innovative. He clearly has value and good for the Orioles not caring about tradition snd shoehorning him into one spot.  And good for Brady for looking at things differently.  

But the chain of command has to be concerning.  He needs to report to Duq because now it leaves ambiguity about who is on what page.  And he has to stay out of the clubhouse in that respect too.  

It is never easy doing something different in baseball, which you see from Wallace and Chiti and their resistance.  And it's clear a few things need cleaned up even if the net gain is positive.

[25 Nuggets]

6 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Good people have disagreements sometimes.  Everyone in the article is perceived as a good guy.  Why do some have to turn it into the good guy verses the bad guys?

Good question - I think it has something to do with psychology.

[Ohfan67]

The article suggests that Brady pushed for the O'Day and Trumbo contracts. That's the most alarming thing in the article to me!!

[Ohfan67]

3 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

The article suggests that Brady pushed for the O'Day and Trumbo contracts. That's the most alarming thing in the article to me!!

But seriously, one of DD's strengths to me is his cold blooded-ness. I don't want a GM/VP who forms strong attachments. I would worry about that with Brady. 

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

The article suggests that Brady pushed for the O'Day and Trumbo contracts. That's the most alarming thing in the article to me!!

All it really says is he worked in the process of getting them both re-signed.  I didn't get a strong feeling from the piece that he, personally, was advocating for their return.

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

But seriously, one of DD's strengths to me is his cold blooded-ness. I don't want a GM/VP who forms strong attachments. I would worry about that with Brady. 

This I agree with.  Expect I do think a GM should answer the phone.

[Finisher]

34 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

So the Davis deal, and 36 million to a 34 yo setup man.

Pretty sure Brady was also involved with the Hardy deal. 0 for 3.

His strength and nutrition input I would think is as good as you'll find though. That is a huge positive. Not a coincidence Arrieta stayed in touch with Brady and gets his body and head right and winds up best starter in baseball while around the same time Britton works with Brady and becomes best closer in baseball. Now obviously both guys had all the talent in the world and had to put in the work but still, Brady helped. Getting on the right lifting program/getting your meals right .. this stuff makes the difference.

Also like Brady sticking up for the fringe guys. Kept hearing about how Wright was a head case. Reminded me of Arrieta. Why does he get that label? Because a pitching coach tries to change a guy at the major league level and it doesn't work? That always rubs me wrong. Way to help guys is get their body/mind right, feed them helpful hitter/pitcher data and tweak minor mechanical stuff if something is obvious (this last one seems a major point of contention and it's certainly not easy).

[Ohfan67]

15 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

All it really says is he worked in the process of getting them both re-signed.  I didn't get a strong feeling from the piece that he, personally, was advocating for their return.

I was mostly joking about those deals. 

 

 

Mostly.

[MDtransplant757]

1 minute ago, Finisher said:

Pretty sure Brady was also involved with the Hardy deal. 0 for 3.

His strength and nutrition input I would think is as good as you'll find though. That is a huge positive. Not a coincidence Arrieta stayed in touch with Brady and gets his body and head right and winds up best starter in baseball while around the same time Britton works with Brady and becomes best closer in baseball. Now obviously both guys had all the talent in the world and had to put in the work but still, Brady helped. Getting on the right lifting program/getting your meals right .. this stuff makes the difference.

Also like Brady sticking up for the fringe guys. Kept hearing about how Wright was a head case. Reminded me of Arrieta. Why does he get that label? Because a pitching coach tries to change a guy at the major league level and it doesn't work? That always rubs me wrong. Way to help guys is get their body/mind right, feed them helpful hitter/pitcher data and tweak minor mechanical stuff if something is obvious (this last one seems a major point of contention and it's certainly not easy).

I personally think that keeping Hardy and O'Day were a good ideas, but I think keeping Davis was just because of the piss poor season we had that year. Would have kept him, but not at the $ and years we gave him. Wouldn't have resigned Trumbo due to Mancini (I called it and told you guys, btw), but I agree with the rest of your points. 

[Ohfan67]

4 minutes ago, Finisher said:

Also like Brady sticking up for the fringe guys. Kept hearing about how Wright was a head case. Reminded me of Arrieta. Why does he get that label? Because a pitching coach tries to change a guy at the major league level and it doesn't work? That always rubs me wrong. Way to help guys is get their body/mind right, feed them helpful hitter/pitcher data and tweak minor mechanical stuff if something is obvious (this last one seems a major point of contention and it's certainly not easy).

Buck has been fairly open with frustration with Wright. He has strongly suggested that Wright wasn't doing what he was asked to do.

 

The proof is also in the pudding...has Brady helped make Wright a better pitcher? Wright is still very mediocre, so that hasn't happened yet. And probably won't...because the player is >>>>>> than the coaches input.