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17 hours ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

That makes a little more sense, but if he doesn't get picked up, hope the O's being him back for Norfolk. Andino hasn't been doing that good this spring and had a huge mental error to end the game today.

If Andino makes the ML roster, I'll eat a box of Rice Krispies ...DRY!

[I should start practicing..lol]

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15 hours ago, Rene88 said:

Really? Huh? With his father as manager at AAA? Makes no sense. What bonus? He never made the team?

This is pretty standard for XX(B) free agents that you want to keep in AAA to start the season.  It is to avoid the 100K retention bonus.  Waive and re-sign.  See Grego Blanco.

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9 minutes ago, Number5 said:

This is pretty standard for XX(B) free agents that you want to keep in AAA to start the season.  It is to avoid the 100K retention bonus.  Waive and re-sign.  See Grego Blanco.

So they request it so the club can save the money and keep them, rather than having to start out somewhere else?

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48 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Mods-retitle thread? Released and Resigned to Norfolk, it's official. He is back in the flock. Odd, lol.

As Number5 mentioned, this isn't that unusual -- it's a way of avoiding a $100,000 retention bonus. Here's a fuller explanation:

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Players with six years of major-league service time that sign minor-league deals now have what is called Article XX-B protection. Teams either have to put these players on the major-league roster or release them five days prior to the start of the MLB season. If they do neither, they must pay that player a $100,000 retention bonus. This is essentially a built-in out clause for veteran players. If you are an Article XX-B free agent, you also receive an automatic June 1 out clause if you’re paid the $100,000. Most teams get around this retention bonus by releasing a player and then resigning him sometime before the five days prior to Opening Day.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/the-full-meaning-of-signing-a-minor-league-deal-021315

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9 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Thanks for the info. Nice way to screw the player ha ha.

It's just business. It also allows them the chance to seek other opportunities at the big league level. Once it's realized no one is going to give them a major league deal, they take the minor league job.

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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

It's just business. It also allows them the chance to seek other opportunities at the big league level. Once it's realized no one is going to give them a major league deal, they take the minor league job.

It's not like they can talk to folks while they are under contract. It's not like a guy who can send out his resume and still get paid to sit at your desk.

They make their calls. And then they decide. It;s good the the Orioles keep the light on.

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